This is one seriously depressing election

[Timshel]

done nothing?......how many laws intended to reduce abortions have been passed by popular demand and thrown out by the courts?....and how does killing children reduce the number of children killed?.....

Very few. Afaik, pro lifers have only passed laws through legislative acts (not exactly popular demand) and many have been thrown out because they were only intended to deny the constitutional rights of women. I don't know of any laws the pro life movement have championed that were narrowly focused on reducing the need for abortions.

Conservatives also promote "abstinence only" which has proven very ineffective in reducing unwanted pregnancy. More unwanted pregnancies means more abortions, legal or not.

 

[MAGA MAN]

It much cheaper than having a shed load of unwanted children.

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Even cheaper than junk food, purchased by EBT.

 

[MAGA MAN]

Don't ask me to pay for armed men to interfere in what you agree is non of your business.

Now look who's anti-government.

 

[MAGA MAN]

We know you by your fruits.

Obviously you don't.

 

[cancel2 2022]

if you can't afford a buck for a Trojan you can't afford a woman......

So shut the fuck up and pay for all the unwanted children instead.

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[Timshel]

Now look who's anti-government.

Are you supposed to be anti government? That's hilarious!

 

[Timshel]

Obviously you don't.

Obviously, we do. By failing to do those things that most effectively reduce abortion and even at times discouraging them you are promoting abortion.

 

[cancel2 2022]

because there may still be a child over the age of ten who doesn't know you can get pregnant if you have sex......

So again shut the fuck up and pay for all the abandoned children instead. I think by far the cheapest solution is to fit an IUD for any woman that wants it.

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[evince]

free contraceptive for all




the right hates that idea

 

[Timshel]

So again shut the fuck up and pay for all the abandoned children instead. I think by far the cheapest solution is to fit an IUD for any woman that wants it.

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Just think how much the Catholic church alone could do (or have already done) to reduce unwanted pregnancy and therefore abortions if it used it's considerable resources to promote/research contraception.

Sanger brought us the pill through her private efforts to fund research. The Pope says to pull out, at best. Who is more responsible for the abortions?

 

[evince]

they don't care



they want women shackled to the religion of others

 

[MAGA MAN]

Obviously, we do. By failing to do those things that most effectively reduce abortion and even at times discouraging them you are promoting abortion.

Your logic fails.

 

[evince]

prove your claims with facts shit box

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Again, if you are worried about reducing abortions or dead children, if you insist, then shouldn't you back the most effective means of achieving that, i.e., contraception?

I have no objection to contraception.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Afaik, pro lifers have only passed laws through legislative acts

???.....how do liberals pass laws.......lol.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Conservatives also promote "abstinence only" which has proven very ineffective in reducing unwanted pregnancy. .

lol.....child, nobody who has abstained has ever gotten pregnant......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

So shut the fuck up and pay for all the unwanted children instead.

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there is no such thing as an unwanted child, fool.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

So again shut the fuck up and pay for all the abandoned children instead. I think by far the cheapest solution is to fit an IUD for any woman that wants it.

is there an abandoned child who isn't supported?......I can't speak for England but there aren't in the US......

 

[Timshel]

???.....how do liberals pass laws.......lol.....

Why should I care? You claimed the pro lifer laws were "passed by popular demand" which sort of implies a referendum. They were passed by legislatures, oftentimes in opposition to the majority of voters.

 

[Timshel]

lol.....child, nobody who has abstained has ever gotten pregnant......

Have you told Jesus? But you know the point was that "abstinence only" education is not effective in reducing unwanted pregnancies.