Trump the Ostrich - 'Testing is killing me'

dukkha said:
looney tunes -even for you!

self actualization is a state of mind -it's similar to enlightenment in Buddhism -not the same but similar

one achieves enlightenment - one becomes self actualized.
It's not possible to be "sometimes". either you are or you aren't self actualized/enlightened

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I see you haven't read anything Maslow ever wrote. Self actualization is not a permanent state. You don't just become your best self and then stay there. We are human. We have bad days, make mistakes, and say things we don't mean. You cannot achieve your full potential every moment of every day. Look at your posting history on this website as an example. Maybe you have sometimes been self actualized, but you often are a loathsome piece of shit who doesn't do any good for anything alive. So forgive me when I completely blow off your abysmal misunderstanding of self actualization.
 
dukkha said:
WTF?

hospitalizations are dropping, deaths are dropping, and they are on a steady downward path.
It doesnt mean we are there yet (but we are pretty close in the USA if not there) -
but to say it's "failed" is the dumbest shit ever posted.

herd immunity is a fact of virology .
it's why virus come and then they go. It's the only thing that stops significant infections in populations
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Less than 46% of Americans have been fully vaccinated. We're shipping our doses overseas because Americans won't accept them. We are nowhere close to herd immunity. Many more people will die this fall and winter. And it's completely fucking avoidable.
 
Diesel said:
No no, you silly cunt. I will eat an ass, but I was talking about your own ass eating and cum guzzling of other men. You don't have to admit it. I already know.
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TMI

Yeah, that's nasty. Most people have an ingrained revulsion to faggots.

I don't wanna hear about what y'all do. That shit's nasty. Children for sure do not need to know about that deviant behavior.

No children should ever be exposed to the deviant behaviour of faggots.

That's robbing them of their childhood. Back to why they used to hang all faggots.

You know..I think modern day faggots are worse, but there's a curve somewhere. The majority of homos is not like you, or else there wouldn't be any homos to speak of today.

Nobody's gonna put up with your bullshit for very long. I predict you die a violent death.

You? Your motherfuckin' ass needs a long drop hanging to where your head is still in the noose and your body falls to the ground.

You're on the level of whaleshit.
 
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Matt Dillon said:
TMI

Yeah, that's nasty. Most people have an ingrained revulsion to faggots.

I don't wanna hear about what y'all do. That shit's nasty. Children for sure do not need to know about that deviant behavior.
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You do know that there are heterosexuals that engage in these things, it isn’t just homosexual behavior.
 
Matt Dillon said:
TMI

Yeah, that's nasty. Most people have an ingrained revulsion to faggots.

I don't wanna hear about what y'all do. That shit's nasty. Children for sure do not need to know about that deviant behavior.

No children should ever be exposed to the deviant behaviour of faggots.

That's robbing them of their childhood. Back to why they used to hang all faggots.

You know..I think modern day faggots are worse, but there's a curve somewhere. The majority of homos is not like you, or else there wouldn't be any homos to speak of today.

Nobody's gonna put up with your bullshit for very long. I predict you die a violent death.

You? Your motherfuckin' ass needs a long drop hanging to where your head is still in the noose and your body falls to the ground.

You're on the level of whaleshit.
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[h=1]Poll: Gay People More Popular Than Evangelicals[/h]According to a new study commissioned by a gay rights group, gays are more favorably viewed than evangelicals.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.us...le-more-popular-than-evangelicals?context=amp
 
Matt Dillon said:
TMI

Yeah, that's nasty. Most people have an ingrained revulsion to faggots.

I don't wanna hear about what y'all do. That shit's nasty. Children for sure do not need to know about that deviant behavior.

No children should ever be exposed to the deviant behaviour of faggots.

That's robbing them of their childhood. Back to why they used to hang all faggots.

You know..I think modern day faggots are worse, but there's a curve somewhere. The majority of homos is not like you, or else there wouldn't be any homos to speak of today.

Nobody's gonna put up with your bullshit for very long. I predict you die a violent death.

You? Your motherfuckin' ass needs a long drop hanging to where your head is still in the noose and your body falls to the ground.

You're on the level of whaleshit.
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And you, as we all expected, are blacked out fucking gone again. Tell us some stories about your imaginary youth. Enthrall us with your machismo. Say "faggot" like 40 or 50 times. I bet you have been ass fucked more times than months I have lived. You are a screaming, literally, queen. May your butt slut gawd bless you this blessed Pride Month!
 
Diesel said:
And you, as we all expected, are blacked out fucking gone again. Tell us some stories about your imaginary youth. Enthrall us with your machismo. Say "faggot" like 40 or 50 times. I bet you have been ass fucked more times than months I have lived. You are a screaming, literally, queen. May your butt slut gawd bless you this blessed Pride Month!
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I'm certain I had a better childhood than you. You seem 1 step removed from a state baby.

Molested foster child were you? Never had a daddy?
 
dukkha said:
WTF?hospitalizations are dropping, deaths are dropping, and they are on a steady downward path.
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Are you sure? Maybe they are going down again, but they just hit a high. Clearly, natural herd immunity failed in Brazil, and it is way ahead of us in natural herd immunity.

The problem seems to be that immunity with Covid-19 fades quickly, so natural herd immunity seems pretty much impossible for more than a month or two.

dukkha said:
It doesnt mean we are there yet (but we are pretty close in the USA if not there) -
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We have vaccination in the USA, so hardly herd immunity. Numbers in the USA are dropping, but that is a lot different from herd immunity. Outbreaks are still being sustained, so we are not particularly close to herd immunity, and certainly not there. Maybe with 70% vaccination, and a year or two, we will hit herd immunity... But there is a question with how fast vaccinated immunity fades.

dukkha said:
herd immunity is a fact of virology .
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It is a possibility, but hardly a fact with all diseases. If we had herd immunity to all diseases, there would no longer be diseases.
 
Walt said:
Are you sure? Maybe they are going down again, but they just hit a high. Clearly, natural herd immunity failed in Brazil, and it is way ahead of us in natural herd immunity.
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I'd provide you a link, but you are incapable of doing the same - but yes about 20% less deaths last 2 weeks.
They have been dropping since Jan.

Herd immunity doesnt fail. I think the low vaccination rate allowed the Delta variant to spread like wildfire
The one in India did that same pattern

The question is if we will need yearly boosters -we might -

Walt said:
he problem seems to be that immunity with Covid-19 fades quickly, so natural herd immunity seems pretty much impossible for more than a month or two.
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SARS virus are capable of generating memory T-cell protection years later



Walt said:
it is a possibility, but hardly a fact with all diseases. If we had herd immunity to all diseases, there would no longer be diseases.
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herd immunity can be lost in a population and breakout again
 
dukkha said:
I'd provide you a link, but you are incapable of doing the same - but yes about 20% less deaths last 2 weeks.
They have been dropping since Jan.
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The absolute high was in April, so it was rising from January to April. It is much higher than it was a year ago. But it is Brazil, so who really knows what the real numbers are. It is very bad, but how bad is up for debate.

And Brazil is way ahead of us on your plan. So that is the future you are picking for us.

dukkha said:
The one in India did that same pattern
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India like Brazil has a much younger population than the USA. Almost a third of Americans are over 55, while they have only half as many. And these are country a year ahead of us on your plan, which are seeing collapses in their health system.
 
Walt said:
Tested over a million people in a month. He had so many test kits he ran out of people in America to test, and gave them away to foreign countries for free. The US Government developed and distributed the vaccine in record time.

Obama had a detailed playbook written up so future Presidents could have his success. trump chose to throw out the playbook, and destroy the CDC.
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Trump.

Testing is over rated because of logistics: you can’t test everyone often enough to catch every infection and this is especially true in large populations. It’s also true that asymptomatic spread in Covid was oversold.

Here is the WHO letting that cat out of the bag:

At one of the WHO’s thrice-weekly press briefings Monday, Van Kerkhove noted that when health officials review cases that are initially reported to be asymptomatic, “we find out that many have really mild disease.” There are some infected people who are “truly asymptomatic,” she said, but countries that are doing detailed contact tracing are “not finding secondary transmission onward” from those cases. “It’s very rare,” she said.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/
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Trump supporters: next time some wag accuses you of killing people by not masking tell them they are full of shit and don’t know what they are talking about. According to the WHO.

Side note: because Google suppresses information that runs counter to *the dogma* you have to dig deep to find little tidbits like this.
 
Darth Omar said:
Testing is over rated because of logistics: you can’t test everyone often enough to catch every infection and this is especially true in large populations.
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You can ring outbreaks with testing, and test high risk people, thereby reducing contagion down to collapse levels. This is the way you successfully defeat a disease. Does it stop every case? No, but it does stop the pandemic. This has been successfully used in many countries.

There are three possible strategies. The best is vaccination, but that was not available at the beginning. The second best is testing. The third best if quarantining everyone who came into contact, and hoping for the best.
 
Walt said:
Tested over a million people in a month. He had so many test kits he ran out of people in America to test, and gave them away to foreign countries for free. The US Government developed and distributed the vaccine in record time.

Obama had a detailed playbook written up so future Presidents could have his success. trump chose to throw out the playbook, and destroy the CDC.
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What playbook lol?

It was like they didn’t have one. Actually, if anyone threw out the playbook it was the medical bureaucracy. Lockdowns on the scale implemented *according to Fauci’s recommendations* had never been attempted before and they had no idea if they would work. That’s called making it up as you go along. It was literally an experiment, except in this instance the whole country and it’s economy was the lab Rat.

Turns out that lockdowns were a classic case of the ‘cure’ being worse than the disease. It was so bad that a large group of respected scientists were forced to put the Barrington Declaration—that was summarily ignored by the geniuses running the pandemic. Turns out a fricking state governor and politician [DeSantis] had to lead these idiots to the well and show them the water.

It should have been *targeted mitigation* from Day One.

How did the CDC manage to be so clueless on masking? What have they been doing all this time? Why did they have to rely on studies done in the midst of a pandemic to support mask mandates? Was it because the science done prior to the pandemic didn’t support the mandates?

The whole thing has been a massive cluster F*.
 
Walt said:
You can ring outbreaks with testing, and test high risk people, thereby reducing contagion down to collapse levels. This is the way you successfully defeat a disease. Does it stop every case? No, but it does stop the pandemic. This has been successfully used in many countries.

There are three possible strategies. The best is vaccination, but that was not available at the beginning. The second best is testing. The third best if quarantining everyone who came into contact, and hoping for the best.
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Once it’s up and running, you can’t test your way out of a pandemic. Utter nonsense.

And this one was up and running before Trump, Fauci or whoever was aware of it. I’m sorry that it doesn’t implicate the Orange Ogre but it is what it is.

We all know where the blame lies, don’t we, Alter?
 
Darth Omar said:
What playbook lol?
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If you do not know about the pandemic playbook and the planned pandemic war game, then you probably should not be posting here. Obama Administration has been accused of being obsessed with pandemics, but I would counter that a pandemic is the obvious way that this (Western Civilization/economics) all fails.
 
Walt said:
If you do not know about the pandemic playbook and the planned pandemic war game, then you probably should not be posting here. Obama Administration has been accused of being obsessed with pandemics, but I would counter that a pandemic is the obvious way that this (Western Civilization/economics) all fails.
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Bingo!

Let’s find the origin of this one because there’s an excellent chance we can prevent the next ‘mishap’.
 
Darth Omar said:
Once it’s up and running, you can’t test your way out of a pandemic. Utter nonsense.
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Testing has reduced the transmission of AIDS, which was an "up and running" pandemic. It was successful in China against Covid-19. It also worked in the more western culture of Australia.

Darth Omar said:
And this one was up and running before Trump, Fauci or whoever was aware of it.
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The Chinese did not communicate the fact of asymptomatic contagion until it was too late. If the CDC still had an office in China, we would not need the Chinese to do our groundwork. Unfortunately, trump was confused on who the CDC's office protected, and cancelled it.
 
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