Fact: the concept of unassimilability is a myth

[Dirt McGirt]

Sorry sport if you knowingly voted for a party or person with ]NO chance of winning that is throwing your vote away!

What about Republicans in California? Or Democrats in Utah? Are they throwing their votes away as well, or is it just third party voters? I'm a little biased since I've voted third party for president since 2004, but there are many of us who don't align with two candidates running that prefer to let that be shown with our voting rather than choosing between the lesser of two evils.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I am not a fool...and not a liberal.

I think Barack Obama was an adequate to good president...and certainly head and shoulders above that abomination now in the presidency.

If you do not agree with that...fine with me.

I disagree on Obama. I think he was a mediocre to poor president and barely a step above Carter.

I do agree that Trump the man is an abomination but thus far he seems to be doing alright as president.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

What about Republicans in California? Or Democrats in Utah? Are they throwing their votes away as well, or is it just third party voters? I'm a little biased since I've voted third party for president since 2004, but there are many of us who don't align with two candidates running that prefer to let that be shown with our voting rather than choosing between the lesser of two evils.

Do Republicans win in California? Do Democrats win in Utah? Then that argument is baseless. As to your voting 3rd party since 2004, how many of your candidates won? Voting 3rd party for president is like pissing into the wind. It doesn't go anywhere and all you do is get pissed on with no one to blame but yourself.

 

[Dirt McGirt]

Do Republicans win in California? Do Democrats win in Utah? Then that argument is baseless. As to your voting 3rd party since 2004, how many of your candidates won? Voting 3rd party for president is like pissing into the wind. It doesn't go anywhere and all you do is get pissed on with no one to blame but yourself.

I was talking about presidential elections, and no they don't win in those respective states. They get blown out of the water.

As the saying goes, the only wasted vote is an unprincipled vote. And blindly voting (D) or (R) just because they aren't the other guy is about as unprincipled as it gets. If you want to hold your nose and vote for a particular candidate, fine. If you want to vote blindly for one party or the other, fine. But you can't whine about the swamp afterwards. You've got no one to blame but yourself.

With all that being said, I will be the first to admit that I've been surprised by the job Trump has done so far and he's given me a lot to think about for 2020.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I was talking about presidential elections, and no they don't win in those respective states. They get blown out of the water.

As the saying goes, the only wasted vote is an unprincipled vote. And blindly voting (D) or (R) just because they aren't the other guy is about as unprincipled as it gets. If you want to hold your nose and vote for a particular candidate, fine. If you want to vote blindly for one party or the other, fine. But you can't whine about the swamp afterwards. You've got no one to blame but yourself.

With all that being said, I will be the first to admit that I've been surprised by the job Trump has done so far and he's given me a lot to think about for 2020.

Is that right? Republican presidents that won California last 40 years Nixon x2, Reagan x2, Bush 41. so about 40% of the time Republicans win in California. Wrong again as well as wrong about throwing your vote away. Oh I can bitch about the president but you really don't deserve to, as you didn't do a thing to help or deny him election. See how easy that was?

 

[Dirt McGirt]

Is that right? Republican presidents that won California last 40 years Nixon x2, Reagan x2, Bush 41. so about 40% of the time Republicans win in California. Wrong again as well as wrong about throwing your vote away. Oh I can bitch about the president but you really don't deserve to, as you didn't do a thing to help or deny him election. See how easy that was?

You had to go back 30 years to find a republican winning California, and I'm wrong? How do you see the next 30 years going? Nice dodge on the dems in Utah by the way. And I can bitch about whatever the hell I please. My vote went to deny Clinton and Trump the presidency. See how easy that was?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

You had to go back 30 years to find a republican winning California, and I'm wrong? How do you see the next 30 years going? Nice dodge on the dems in Utah by the way. And I can bitch about whatever the hell I please. My vote went to deny Clinton and Trump the presidency. See how easy that was?

No dumb ass you completely ignore the fact that about 40% of the time Republicans win California. It is an incontrovertible fact that voting 3rd party is a waste of ones vote. If you wish to continue to be a fool and vote 3rd party have a nut.

 

[ptif219]

You sure have a reading comprehension problem sport! I said quote "Illegals are not immigrants so the rule doesn't apply to them.". Now in what universe does my statement mean illegals are immigrants?

Then why do democrats call GOP anti-immigration for their wanting to stop the invasion of illegals?

 

[ptif219]

Sorry sport if you knowingly voted for a party or person with ]NO chance of winning that is throwing your vote away!

No it is showing there was no one worth voting for in the democrats or GOP choices. If more people would do that we could stop the 2 party monopoly

 

[ptif219]

I PROUDLY VOTE FOR LIBERALS...even though I am not a liberal.

I have voted for conservatives. I actually voted for Ronald Reagan the first time he ran. I regretted that vote after listening to his first inaugural address.

You show your lie. You are not a conservative you are a liberal

 

[ptif219]

I am not a fool...and not a liberal.

I think Barack Obama was an adequate to good president...and certainly head and shoulders above that abomination now in the presidency.

If you do not agree with that...fine with me.

You show you are a liberal. Obama was an incompetent president. Trump has already done more than Obama did in 8 years

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I am not a fool...and not a liberal.

you are literally the only one here who believes that......

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Then why do democrats call GOP anti-immigration for their wanting to stop the invasion of illegals?

Because they pander to the illegal vote to gain power and power is everything to the Democrat party. Simple

 

[Eagle_Eye]

No it is showing there was no one worth voting for in the democrats or GOP choices. If more people would do that we could stop the 2 party monopoly

That is the most absurd statement I have ever heard. That ranks right up there with "If I don't get my way I'll hold my breath till I turn blue".

Someday there may be a viable third party but I doubt you will ever see it in your lifetime.

 

[Ross Dolan]

You show your lie. You are not a conservative you are a liberal

You show your ignorance by supposing the choice is an either/or one.

Like many, many people, I am NOT a liberal. I also am NOT a conservative. And I am not a libertarian either.

It is unfortunate you are unable to participate in a discussion without the basics having to be explained. Why don't you go get educated...and then come back an talk?

 

[Ross Dolan]

You show you are a liberal. Obama was an incompetent president. Trump has already done more than Obama did in 8 years

I am not a liberal...Obama was far from being an incompetent president.

Donald Trump is an abomination. He and the Republican dominated congress have gotten almost nothing done.

Trump has managed to draw support from the uninformed and stupid in our midst, though.

You support him, right?

 

[ptif219]

Because they pander to the illegal vote to gain power and power is everything to the Democrat party. Simple

But then how can illegals not be immigrants. They are illegal immigrants

 

[ptif219]

You show your ignorance by supposing the choice is an either/or one.

Like many, many people, I am NOT a liberal. I also am NOT a conservative. And I am not a libertarian either.

It is unfortunate you are unable to participate in a discussion without the basics having to be explained. Why don't you go get educated...and then come back an talk?

Problem is by your posts we know that is a lie

 

[ptif219]

I am not a liberal...Obama was far from being an incompetent president.

Donald Trump is an abomination. He and the Republican dominated congress have gotten almost nothing done.

Trump has managed to draw support from the uninformed and stupid in our midst, though.

You support him, right?

Your post shows you are a low information liberal that voted for Obama and hates Trump

 

[Ross Dolan]

Problem is by your posts we know that is a lie

The problem is what I said...that you show your ignorance by supposing the choice is an either/or one.

Like many, many people, I am NOT a liberal. I also am NOT a conservative. And I am not a libertarian either.

It is unfortunate you are unable to participate in a discussion without the basics having to be explained. Why don't you go get educated...and then come back an talk?