Manafort now singing like a canary in a coal mine

Getin the ring said:
yea, why don't you and evince start a podcast, you two are right on top of things

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my God I'm conversing with retards
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the things I was correct here on this site and all you right wing shit balls laughed at my predictions:

Iraq had no WMDs

the Bush use of white phosperous in Fallughia

the DOJ scandal under Bush

Sub prime loans being BAD

the Crash of the entire worlds economy because of deregulation the republicans fought for

Obamas election

the success of the REREGULATION

the needed bailouts


the cheating in elections republicans do


the Russians being involved in fucking our last election


the trumpy being a complete insane idiot


to name a few
 
Jarod said:
Seems like a pretty good deal to me, I wonder what Mueller is getting.
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I know, right? Mueller's Final Big Reveal(tm) is gonna be the best reality show, the yugest, bigliest, most winningest successful show EVER! I bet its ratings will be higher than the one that Orange Trumpetface hosted, remember that one? What was it called again? Celebrity Criminals? Let's Squeal a Deal? The Handcuffs are Right? Putin on the Ritz?
 
Not good news for the Trump team, interesting to see if Trump now starts attacking Manaford as he did Cohen when he flipped

What would Trump do if the handwriting was on the wall that they had him for serious financial crimes as money laundering? If they start seriois legal procedures to obtain his tax history or the books on the businesses? If Mueller has a solid case against one of the kids or in laws?

If such is the case I really can't see Trump doing the honorable thing, putting country above self and gracefully fading. What would then result would tear the nation apart and jeopordize the consensus that makes us a nation
 
Jarod said:
ABC reports that the plea specifically says Manafort is pleading guilty to crimes occurring well into 2016.
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Unless they are crimes associated with the campaign, it is irrelevant

You are assuming that President Trump and the campaign knew about his activities and ignored it.

I suspect like most other things, this will be a massive disappointment for you.
 
Teflon Don said:
Unless they are crimes associated with the campaign, it is irrelevant

You are assuming that President Trump and the campaign knew about his activities and ignored it.

I suspect like most other things, this will be a massive disappointment for you.
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I am not assuming, I am just happy it looks like we are going to get to the truth. Trump should have pardoned Manafort last week.
 
blackascoal said:
That won't help him with state charges.

A Lone Holdout Juror Actually Made It More Likely That Paul Manafort Will Go to Jail Even if Trump Pardons Him

On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that President Donald Trump had recently discussed with his lawyers the prospect of issuing a pardon for Paul Manafort. The former Trump campaign chairman, who was convicted earlier this week on charges of bank fraud and tax fraud, remains under scrutiny by special counsel Robert Mueller for his work on the 2016 campaign and his connections to Russia. In considering a pardon, Trump could be seeking to pre-empt a cooperation deal with another former top lieutenant after Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign-related offenses this week and promised through an attorney to cooperate with the Mueller probe. A pardon would backfire, though, because Manafort would still face numerous state charges and his federal convictions this week would now be admissible in some of those states. Moreover, Trump would only be strengthening the criminal obstruction and the impeachment cases against him.

Last November, I explained how Mueller’s team seemed to be strategizing a way to outmaneuver Trump’s pardons when they initially brought charges against Manafort. Prosecutors appeared to be holding back some charges for states to bring, just in case Trump pardoned Manafort. Presidential pardons only address federal crimes, which means Manafort could face state charges for the same acts.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...rdons-him-thanks-to-a-lone-holdout-juror.html
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Yes. Tax evasion typically brings the same charges at the state level.

NY is all over this.
 
reagansghost said:
about to keel over from toxic GOP stench
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Yep.....singing.....about no Collusion on charges issued YEARS AGO. This is priceless. :laugh: How many millions did Mueller waste in charging someone that could have easily been accomplished by standard DOJ practices? Where's the beef? Meanwhile....Mr. Trump still has the power of the "pardon". Note the confession was related to charges against the United States (federal)….with purpose.
 
Ralph said:
Yep.....singing.....about no Collusion on charges issued YEARS AGO. This is priceless. :laugh: How many millions did Mueller waste in charging someone that could have easily been accomplished by standard DOJ practices? Where's the beef? Meanwhile....Mr. Trump still has the power of the "pardon".
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Way too late for a pardon- it will never happen now.
 
Jarod said:
Well everyone is now reporting its a plea deal with Mueller, not a plea up to the Judge.

That makes a cooperation agreement more likely but not absolute, depends on if Mueller broke on his reported demand that any plea include a cooperation agreement.
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Mueller might not need what Manafort has, in which case the chess match continues.
 
floridafan said:
Way too late for a pardon- it will never happen now.
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Really? First there must be a sentence. Then I would almost guarantee you that the pardon pen will make a visit, if nothing else to demonstrate to Mueller what happens when entrapment tactics are used.
 
Ralph said:
Yep.....singing.....about no Collusion on charges issued YEARS AGO. This is priceless. :laugh: How many millions did Mueller waste in charging someone that could have easily been accomplished by standard DOJ practices? Where's the beef? Meanwhile....Mr. Trump still has the power of the "pardon". Note the confession was related to charges against the United States (federal)….with purpose.
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Mueller paid for the cost of his investigation with the penalties and fines the Gov't will collect from Manaford with today's plea deal, something like $67 million

Mueller has accomplished more in a year and half than six years of Ken Star or the eight years of redundant BenghaziGate investigations, and the beef is five guilty pleas plus thirty something inditements and still counting
 
Ralph said:
Really? First there must be a sentence. Then I would almost guarantee you that the pardon pen will make a visit, if nothing else to demonstrate to Mueller what happens when entrapment tactics are used.
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Would be a major political mistake by Trump, especially after today when America knows Manaford has flipped. In addition, if the Democrats win the House it would lay the premise for endlessly serious investigations
 
Ralph said:
Yep.....singing.....about no Collusion on charges issued YEARS AGO. This is priceless. :laugh: How many millions did Mueller waste in charging someone that could have easily been accomplished by standard DOJ practices? Where's the beef? Meanwhile....Mr. Trump still has the power of the "pardon". Note the confession was related to charges against the United States (federal)….with purpose.
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You know exactly nothing about what Mueller has. Not a damn thing. He has Manafort, Cohen and a bunch of trump suckups in jail or indicted.Do you know even know that? He has not ended his investigation or let out his findings. but lots of trump's entourage is in judicial peril. Manfort and Cohen are talking. I would be surprised if trump escapes. money laundering is his biggest problem according to bannon. bannon is not a lefty.
 
floridafan said:
No need for NY now, he is fully co operating with Mueller.
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You assume he knows something that will lead them to Trump. Trump has waived executive and attorney-client priviledge previously secretly and been cooperating awhile now. Your bias blinds you to the possibility Trump already sold Manafort and Cohen out first which was how they were convicted.
 
Kacper said:
You assume he knows something that will lead them to Trump. Trump has waived executive and attorney-client priviledge previously secretly and been cooperating awhile now. Your bias blinds you to the possibility Trump already sold Manafort and Cohen out first which was how they were convicted.
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There would be no reason to offer either Cohen or Manafort a plea deal if they didn't have a lot to offer to Mueller.
 
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