Economic damage from climate change

[Cypress]

Apparently, most of the estimated economic damage from climate change will occur in Trump-loving areas of the country - it will range from significant to severe economic damage.
While the northeastern states, the pacific northwest, and the pacific coastline will emerge relatively unscathed economically.

Direct economic damages from climate change in the U.S., by examining impacts to agriculture, crime, coastal storms, energy, human mortality, and labor
(source: Hsiang et al., 2017. Estimating economic damage from climate change in the United States. Science, 356(6345), 1362–1369).

 

[Sirthinksalot]

Apparently, most of the estimated economic damage from climate change will occur in Trump-loving areas of the country - it will range from significant to severe economic damage.
While the northeastern states, the pacific northwest, and the pacific coastline will emerge relatively unscathed economically.

Did you notice that according to your chart many areas will actually benefit from "climate change"?

 

[Micawber]

Apparently, most of the estimated economic damage from climate change will occur in Trump-loving areas of the country - it will range from significant to severe economic damage.
While the northeastern states, the pacific northwest, and the pacific coastline will emerge relatively unscathed economically.

I wonder when Havana Loon will run his next climate science experiment (ha ha ) to refute all the science that shows man made global warming will devastate
the poor Trumfuckers, Jebusland and the rustbelt?

Ans. Never.

The great north, noreast and west should build a great wall and never give a dime to all those ingrates
who sponge off our MASSIVE federal revenue WE pay year after year without end all while touting self reliance. and eating Cheetos while watching Fox and cashing welfare checks.

 

[Cypress]

I wonder when Havana Loon will run his next climate science experiment (ha ha ) to refute all the science that shows man made global warming will devastate
the poor Trumfuckers, Jebusland and the rustbelt?

Ans. Never.

The great north, noreast and west should build a great wall and never give a dime to all those ingrates
who sponge off our MASSIVE federal revenue WE pay year after year without end all while touting self reliance. and eating Cheetos while watching Fox and cashing welfare checks.

A big beautiful wall sealing us off from the Trump loving victims of climate change denial, eh??.


On a serious note, we obviously have to try to minimize the damage and consequences of climate change to everyone and to the planet's ecosystem.

Climate denial is becoming untenable, unsupportable, and downright laughable.

Savvy and educated Republicans are starting to realized that Climate Denial is a joke. So progress is being made, but we need to move beyond rhetoric and recognition to action.

A Louisiana Republican Reckons with Climate Change

Garret Graves is a forty-seven-year-old Republican congressman from Louisiana who, earlier this year, bet his considerable political future on the proposition that the age of conservative climate denial is over. Graves had come to the point of view, he told me recently, “that those who were denying were taking an unsustainable position. That the science was going to further and further sink the island that they were standing on, and that eventually they would be inundated.” When the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, announced a new Select Committee on the Climate Crisis this winter, after teen-aged activists staged a sit-in at her office, Graves visited the Republican leader in the House, Kevin McCarthy, to argue that the new committee gave Republicans a chance to take a less obstinate position on climate change, if they were nimble enough to see it.

Graves, who is medium height and athletic, with a strong chin and a loud voice, came with a PowerPoint presentation, laying out for McCarthy “everything from the disasters to our progress on emissions, without blowing up the economy, to the strategic resources of the United States and those of other countries.” There was, he argued to McCarthy, “a better way to apply Republican principles to this issue of climate change”—an insistence that the challenge of climate change can be met by scientific innovation, by the application of our remarkable instruments and brains. In February, McCarthy named Graves to serve as the ranking member on the committee. And, just like that, the Republicans chose as their spokesman on climate change a gregarious, outdoorsy young man who liked to say that not only was sea-level rise real but that he had measured it with his own yardstick.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-...isiana-republican-reckons-with-climate-change

 

[Sailor]

I wonder when Havana Loon will run his next climate science experiment (ha ha ) to refute all the science that shows man made global warming will devastate
the poor Trumfuckers, Jebusland and the rustbelt?

Ans. Never.

The great north, noreast and west should build a great wall and never give a dime to all those ingrates
who sponge off our MASSIVE federal revenue WE pay year after year without end all while touting self reliance. and eating Cheetos while watching Fox and cashing welfare checks.

Is there some garlic festival you can go to or something?

 

[moon]

Is there some garlic festival you can go to or something?

Are you hinting that you'd like to see him shot, hard man ? Geez- what a window-licker you are.


bath-tub Billy;

Huh ?

 

[Sailor]

Are you hinting that you'd like to see him shot, hard man ? Geez- what a window-licker you are.


bath-tub Billy;

Stabbed is fine. Run over, pushed in the props, fall down the stairs, his gay lover puts the gag in his mouth and he chokes to death, etc. Makes no mind to me. How about you join him and make a twofer.

 

[Cypress]

Did you notice that according to your chart many areas will actually benefit from "climate change"?

Only economically (agricultural productivity, human health, labor). This figure does not include ecological damage.

Yes, it has been common knowledge that some areas of the planet may benefit from increased precipitation, etc. However, on balance, globally climate change is going to cost national economies trillions of dollars for adaptation and mitigation, and collectively will result in detrimental impacts far outweighing any benefits.

And Maine, California, and Washington state are undoubtedly going to have to help pay for the severe economic damage to the climate denying, Trump loving parts of the nation.

 

[moon]

Stabbed is fine. Run over, pushed in the props, fall down the stairs, his gay lover puts the gag in his mouth and he chokes to death, etc. Makes no mind to me. How about you join him and make a twofer.

Tch, tch- you've just set back your desperate plea for respect by a notch or two, bath-tub Billy. Haw, haw...........................haw.

Just be a fucking gobby sociopath. It suits you better.

(J)

 

[Sailor]

Tch, tch- you've just set back your desperate plea for respect by a notch or two, bath-tub Billy. Haw, haw...........................haw.

Just be a fucking gobby sociopath. It suits you better.

Chickening out again I see Goon.

 

[Moosakofsky]

I wonder when Havana Loon will run his next climate science experiment (ha ha ) to refute all the science that shows man made global warming will devastate
the poor Trumfuckers, Jebusland and the rustbelt?

Ans. Never.

.

Because he doesn't have to. Can you show an experiment that proves man has caused so called 'climate change'? One will do.
Bet I can show you evidence climate change existed before man existed. Who caused that? Farting dinosaurs?

 

[Phantasmal]

Did you notice that according to your chart many areas will actually benefit from "climate change"?

Yes, but it does not make up for those areas that will be impacted. Everyone in the nation doesn’t suffer from hurricanes, or forest fires, but those areas that do, impact the economy of the nation as a whole.



https://www.thebalance.com/cost-of-natural-disasters-3306214

 

[Cypress]

Because he doesn't have to. Can you show an experiment that proves man has caused so called 'climate change'? One will do.
Bet I can show you evidence climate change existed before man existed. Who caused that? Farting dinosaurs?

"Climate has changed before!" is not a plausible argument, it is a diversion.

Climate does not change for no reason, it changes due to whatever forcings are acting upon it at the time.

In the geologic past, volcanic activity, flood basalts, solar radiation variability, changes in albedo, and Milankovitch cycles contributed to climate variations.

The rapid warming we have seen since the mid 20th century is largely attributable to increasing and relentless human emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gasses. And this is known with a very high degree of scientific certainty and is based on multiple lines of evidence from decades of research by the world's best climate scientists.

 

[Moosakofsky]

"Climate has changed before!" is not a plausible argument, it is a diversion.

Climate does not change for no reason, it changes due to whatever forcings are acting upon it at the time.

In the geologic past, volcanic activity, flood basalts, solar radiation variability, changes in albedo, and Milankovitch cycles contributed to climate variations.

The rapid warming we have seen since the mid 20th century is largely attributable to increasing and relentless human emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gasses. And this is known with a very high degree of scientific certainty and is based on multiple lines of evidence from decades of research by the world's best climate scientists.

What's your solution?

 

[Cypress]

What's your solution?

I do not have one.
I am not one of those obscure message board arm chair experts who feels my ego is at risk if I do not invent, contrive, and bullshit my way into an answer.

I leave it to the trained experts to sort out, in the same way I leave brain surgery to neurosurgeons.

My limited layperson understanding suggests that we need a mix of
adaptation (modifying our infrastructure and public works to be resilient in the face of climate change),
and mitigation (reducing GHG emissions and increasing GHG sinks).

 

[Moosakofsky]

I do not have one.
I am not one of those obscure message board arm chair experts who feels my ego is at risk if I do not invent, contrive, and bullshit my way into an answer.

I leave it to the trained experts to sort out, in the same way I leave brain surgery to neurosurgeons.

My limited layperson understanding suggests that we need a mix of
adaptation (modifying our infrastructure and public works to be resilient in the face of climate change),
and mitigation (reducing GHG emissions and increasing GHG sinks).

Fair enough. Personally I believe reducing GHG emissions and increasing GHG sinks will happen anyway over time. It's not like we've abandoned research into it and likely never will. If nothing else it's interesting stuff. We waste research dollars on crap like transgender studies and what not. And just like nobody really can quantify to what degree humans have caused GW, nobody will ever be able to quantify to what degree reducing GHG emissions and increasing GHG sinks will have an effect, if any. We can safely predict the human population will increase, though. That's not good news for alarmists.

 

[Celticguy]

Apparently, most of the estimated economic damage from climate change will occur in Trump-loving areas of the country - it will range from significant to severe economic damage.
While the northeastern states, the pacific northwest, and the pacific coastline will emerge relatively unscathed economically.

Crime ? Cant take this seriously.

 

[Cypress]

Crime ? Cant take this seriously.

The correlation between weather and the observed rates of violent crime and property crime have been studied and known about for decades.

"Property crime increases as the number of cold days—which suppress property crime rates (fig.S4)—falls but then flattens for higher levels of warming because hot days do not affect property crime rates. Violent crime rates increase linearly at a relatively precise 0.88 (±0.04) % per °C inGMST (Fig. 3, G and H, and table S15)"

-Hsiang et al. 2017. Estimating economic damage from climate change in the United States. Science, 356(6345), 1362–1369.

The researchers of this paper published in the highly prestigious journal "Science" were aware of it, even if you weren't.

 

[moon]

The correlation between weather and the observed rates of violent crime and property crime have been studied and known about for decades.

Yeah. In typhoon-stricken countries they have to put armed guards on corrugated sheets.

 

[Sailor]

Yeah. In typhoon-stricken countries they have to put armed guards on corrugated sheets.

How many typhoons have you seen from your two fathers basement? STFU.