Trump renews call for Russia to rejoin G-7

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dukkha said:
"makes him look like" is about the extent of your understanding of Russian/Ukraine relations. You have zero understanding of the Budapest Memorandum, or why McCain and Nuand were in Independence Square for the Maidan.

Nuland was there for a lot more then passing out cookies.McCain was his usual fascist self.
Kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP about Crimea( historic Russian) you fucking fascist.


Nuland and her cookies -Euromaidan meddling 2014
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Just one of those things that has been swept under the rug. I don't think anyone on the board has studied this more than you, Dukkha.
 
Bigdog said:
Just one of those things that has been swept under the rug. I don't think anyone on the board has studied this more than you, Dukkha.
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TY BD -much appreciated.
everything we think about Russia is skewed ( n o t necessarily all wrong but skewed) by the Russiaphobia ginned up by the Russian collusion hoax

NATO expansion, and Euromaidan meddling put Russian relations on a downward spiral during the Obama adm. The Russian reset was just words.

Vicky Nuland and John McCain were the evil Bobbsey Twins on the ground
 
dukkha said:
I wish it were just from libs.
The Russian collusion hoax was a set up by the Deep State to usurp Trump and also to damage any potential
rapprochement by Trump who wanted to improve US/western/Russian relations
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There was no such hoax, silly drunk. Collusion was established and demonstrated by the Mueller Report.

You haven't read it. You wouldn't know.
 
StoneByStone said:
Yes. Because there is no way Trump can do that while still sucking up to Putin in other ways, such as in the OP. :palm:
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Bringing in Russia to the G-8 directly removes them from overwhelming Chinese economic partnership -although they would stay in China's Shanghai cooperation Organization (SCO)
 
Steven VanderMolen said:
But it's MOSTLY from the libs.
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Yepper, TRUMP's CAMPAIGN just brought it to a new 'art' form! You know BOTS, the GRU, fake media accounts, Macedonian teenage fiction writers, "honeypot" SPIES infiltrating the NRA and National Prayer Breakfast, secret meetings with Russians in towers and cigar bars in NYC, etc. etc. etc.

Who knew I would read RUSSIA, say Russia and be affected by Russia's CHOICE for President every day for 2 1/2 years? And, I passed a sign for 3 years reading "Think you are only 90 miles from Communism" on my way to elementary school. I was a cold war kid who lived through 'duck and cover' and whose father's seabag was packed at the front door at the ready to haul ass to Mayport to board the Roosevelt in 1962 should Kennedy call it up.

And I've still said RUSSIA more times in 2 and half years. Who knew?
 
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Putin helped get Trump elected, so now, Trump has got a thing going for Putin.
 
Russia announced its permanent withdrawal in 2017, what makes Trump thinks they want back in to the G7?
 
dukkha said:
Trump renews call for Russia to rejoin G-7

President Trump on Tuesday revived his idea that Russia should be reinstated into the Group of Seven (G-7) major economies, arguing that it is “much more appropriate to have Russia in.”

Trump made the remarks to reporters while meeting in the Oval Office with Romanian President Klaus Iohannis on Tuesday afternoon.

“We talk about Russia because I’ve been to numerous G-7 meetings,” Trump said. “I think it’s much more appropriate to have Russia in.”

Whether you like it or not, and it may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run,” Trump said then. “And in the G-7, which used be the G-8, they threw Russia out. They should let Russia come back in because we should have Russia at the negotiating table.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/458124-trump-renews-call-for-russia-to-rejoin-g-7
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Why is Trump begging on Russia's behalf for something Russia does not even want?

It is just freakin' weird. Trump is just looking way too eager to go above and beyond what the Kremlin even wants, to curry favor with them.
It is not a sign of strength. It is a sign of weakness to beg, and scurry about trying to curry favor like this.

"Russians Not Interested in Joining G-8, They Are Perfectly Happy Working in the G-20 Framework"

MOSCOW (AFP) - Russia has not asked to rejoin the group of the world's leading economies and is perfectly happy working with the larger Group of 20, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday (June 9), a day after US President Donald Trump called for Russia's return.

Lavrov said on national television that Russia "never asked anyone to return" to the Group of Seven (G-7) following the 2014 decision to suspend Russia over Moscow's annexation of Crimea.

Ahead of the annual meeting of G-7 leaders, Trump said Russia should be allowed back, a suggestion quickly rejected by Britain, France and Germany.

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/russia-brushes-off-possibility-of-g-8-return
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first off Russia's announcement was facing saving -in truth Russia was ousted for Ukraine activities
I won't go i to the obvious we forced Russia to annex Crimean for Sevastopol access

U.S., other powers kick Russia out of G8 March 2014
https://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/politics/obama-europe-trip/index.html

Trump said " a lot of discussion is about Russia in the meetings" which looks true

Trump and Macron agree that Russia should be invited to next year's G7
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/20/politics/donald-trump-russia-g8-g7/index.html

engaging Russia is always better then shunning Russia
 
Earl said:
Remember Rosenstein: No Vote Counts or Election Results Were Changed.
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Remember that Russia had a military hacking operation going to elect Trump. They actually worked with members of Trump's election staff, like Manfort. They started pro Trump demonstrations and helped some others. The sent out massive amounts of dishonest emails and Tweets. How many did Russia get to vote and march? It was a very close election, so the fact is, Putin picked our president.
 
Gonzomin said:
Remember that Russia had a military hacking operation going to elect Trump. They actually worked with members of Trump's election staff, like Manfort. They started pro Trump demonstrations and helped some others. The sent out massive amounts of dishonest emails and Tweets. How many did Russia get to vote and march? It was a very close election, so the fact is, Putin picked our president.
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The Russians supplied the Pee Pee Dossier to Obama ... to defeat Trump.

:dunno:
 
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