Into the Night
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Oh well. They learned the hard way about selling the farm.
Capitalism only works with honesty and integrity... otherwise only the corrupt rise.
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Oh well. They learned the hard way about selling the farm.
Into the Night
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That is not capitalism.
Is great if you develop it. That's the heart of capitalism.
Nope. No rules needed.
Nope. No police needed. Capitalism does not need police at all. Police are for protecting society, not an economic system.
Regulation is not capitalism.
There is no 'setting'. No one needs to manage capitalism.
There is no 'setting'.
Sure it is. Even idiots can participate in capitalism. Heck, even YOU can participate in capitalism (that is, if you want to!).
Nope. Even children can participate in capitalism. Remember that next time you buy Girl Scout cookies or see a kid mowing a lawn for pay.
Into the Night
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It works all the time. It worked to build the cities, the food you eat, the computer you are typing on, the network it's connected to, the software it runs, the display you are viewing this on right now, your cell phone, etc.
Nope. Production doesn't stop. Capitalism creates wealth. Production simply moves on to the next product.
Nope. Shortages lead to war. Shortages caused by socialism.
It's the same cause each time, even for so-called religious wars.
The path to peace is profit. You don't shoot your customers.
Yes, and it continue to produce more and more.
There is no 'phase'.
Nope. We still use capitalism. Socialism couldn't exist without it! Socialism has to have someone producing wealth before socialism can steal it.
No, it doesn't.
Into the Night
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Capitalism is not a tool. It's an economic system. The only economic system that creates wealth.
Fettering it is not capitalism. That is fascism. Fascism is NOT part of a free nation. Capitalism is.
Into the Night
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Capitalism is not a nation. Capitalism is an economic system. It has worked to build the city out of the wilderness. It has worked to build the computer you are using right now.
It does exist. Even now.
evince
Truthmatters
and it has been unfettered when in history?
evince
Truthmatters
Is America a capitalist nation?
Adolf_Twitler
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Capitalism has to work for everybody, or it is a failure!
If Capitalism only works for those who own and manage business, why would the working man or consumer, give one squirt of runny crap about capitalism?
An elected Congress can create a standard for business, that requires Business to follow, in order to legally conduct business here in the USA, in the way they pay taxes, collect taxes, conduct hiring practices, and pay fair wages that keep up with inflation and company profits.
Just as there are standards for workers such as having a SS card, Green Card, Current Identification, being able to pass drug tests, providing a background check, or having a college degree, or High School degree.
Rules are not just for the workers- Companies already have to follow certain rules set up by Congress in order to legitimately be called a legal business.
If the president can charge companies tariffs, Congress can surely set some business standards as well.
If Capitalism only works for those who own and manage business, why would the working man or consumer, give one squirt of runny crap about capitalism?
An elected Congress can create a standard for business, that requires Business to follow, in order to legally conduct business here in the USA, in the way they pay taxes, collect taxes, conduct hiring practices, and pay fair wages that keep up with inflation and company profits.
Just as there are standards for workers such as having a SS card, Green Card, Current Identification, being able to pass drug tests, providing a background check, or having a college degree, or High School degree.
Rules are not just for the workers- Companies already have to follow certain rules set up by Congress in order to legitimately be called a legal business.
If the president can charge companies tariffs, Congress can surely set some business standards as well.
Into the Night
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Repetitious question that has already been answered.
Into the Night
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There are no regulations on capitalism. Capitalism simply is. All regulations do is reduce capitalism, often in favor of socialism.
Already cited. Repetitious question already answered.
Into the Night
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Repetitous question already answered.
Into the Night
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There is a difference between a standard (such as a standard for screw threads) and regulations that curtail and reduce capitalism. No government is required for capitalism.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Jarod,
No, it isn't. Capitalism absolutely must be well regulated. Government is the only entity that can do that.
It's a myth. What will happen is the most powerful and immoral will crush the rest. They can't resist.
I don't see God having anything to do with it. We are on our own. Whatever happens to we humans is up to we humans. The market with God's influence and the market without God's influence look exactly the same to me.
Thank you. That's why there is no such thing as the free market. It must have rules; AND enforcement of those rules.
Exactly!
It will never work because there is always corruption. That's why we need regulation.
The real beauty of capitalism is the lure of reward for hard work. It is the return on the investment of time, effort and/or wealth. Capitalism is a great motivator. But it is only a motivator for business owners and investors.
Most workers have a different motivation. They are not motivated by rewards as much as they are motivated by job security. Workers work hard because they don't want to lose their job. They can't afford to suddenly lose income, (most workers live paycheck to paycheck) so they know they have to keep up the pace and not be singled out for lack of performance. Most workers don't have much to look forward to as far as thinking if they work hard they will get raises and be rewarded for their hard work. Oh sure, those with the better jobs hope for that and it might happen, (usually not) but there is a very large segment of workers who have zero hope nor expectation of a raise. They work so they don't get fired. That's their motivation. They know they make their deal on the way in and, once done, they are pretty much stuck with it.
The corruption aspect of it acts in two ways.
1. For those who suffer as victims of corruption (most of the populace to one degree or another) it is a definite turn-off for capitalism. Why try to start a small business when the deck is stacked so heavily against you? Big powerful players in the market are ready and willing to crush you. And they have government on their side. They'll eat you up like there's nothing to it, scratch your name off the list of competitors and move quickly on to the next one. Better to greatly reduce your risk and just take a job working for somebody else. That's what most pragmatic people do. And the health care attachment to employment about seals that deal for anybody who is on the fence.
2. For those who have nefarious tendencies the corruption is seen as a huge opportunity. If you can get some kind of immoral leverage and use it, you can multiply your return. For greedy people, this is irresistible. And that is why we have so much corruption. They just don't love their neighbor. They want to take advantage of their neighbor. They don't care at all what happens to other people.
Trump is the epitome of that kind of thinking.
No, it isn't. Capitalism absolutely must be well regulated. Government is the only entity that can do that.
It's a myth. What will happen is the most powerful and immoral will crush the rest. They can't resist.
I don't see God having anything to do with it. We are on our own. Whatever happens to we humans is up to we humans. The market with God's influence and the market without God's influence look exactly the same to me.
Thank you. That's why there is no such thing as the free market. It must have rules; AND enforcement of those rules.
Exactly!
It will never work because there is always corruption. That's why we need regulation.
The real beauty of capitalism is the lure of reward for hard work. It is the return on the investment of time, effort and/or wealth. Capitalism is a great motivator. But it is only a motivator for business owners and investors.
Most workers have a different motivation. They are not motivated by rewards as much as they are motivated by job security. Workers work hard because they don't want to lose their job. They can't afford to suddenly lose income, (most workers live paycheck to paycheck) so they know they have to keep up the pace and not be singled out for lack of performance. Most workers don't have much to look forward to as far as thinking if they work hard they will get raises and be rewarded for their hard work. Oh sure, those with the better jobs hope for that and it might happen, (usually not) but there is a very large segment of workers who have zero hope nor expectation of a raise. They work so they don't get fired. That's their motivation. They know they make their deal on the way in and, once done, they are pretty much stuck with it.
The corruption aspect of it acts in two ways.
1. For those who suffer as victims of corruption (most of the populace to one degree or another) it is a definite turn-off for capitalism. Why try to start a small business when the deck is stacked so heavily against you? Big powerful players in the market are ready and willing to crush you. And they have government on their side. They'll eat you up like there's nothing to it, scratch your name off the list of competitors and move quickly on to the next one. Better to greatly reduce your risk and just take a job working for somebody else. That's what most pragmatic people do. And the health care attachment to employment about seals that deal for anybody who is on the fence.
2. For those who have nefarious tendencies the corruption is seen as a huge opportunity. If you can get some kind of immoral leverage and use it, you can multiply your return. For greedy people, this is irresistible. And that is why we have so much corruption. They just don't love their neighbor. They want to take advantage of their neighbor. They don't care at all what happens to other people.
Trump is the epitome of that kind of thinking.
And transparency. Integrity would form or manifest in communistic type altruism, an ideal state rather than something which can exist. ( A pipe dream)
Last I checked there were and never have been Jesus' in this world. Every single person in need in the world can be counted on to lie cheat and steal
at some time or other in their own best interests if they believe it will go undetected. If one professes to not agree with that, one is naïve beyond belief
or lying. The transparency provides the likelihood of detection and regulation the mechanism and conditions for it to exist and remedy for breaches.
As you mentioned monopolies, price fixing, defective dangerous products, pollution, currency manipulation, stock swindling, risky behavior by too huge to fail banks,
payoff, kickbacks, pay to play, political bribery, all of it will be mitigated, never cured, with transparency and regulation by democratic institutions.
Without that, we are just a huge mafia run banana republic. And that is what many Repukes either want or don't care about or don't understand.
That's what Republicans attack all the institutions established to foment it. They want to control shit, form their little in clubs and they sure don't want anyone to see what they are
up to. The teaming hordes of poor Trumptards are simply ignorant suckers.
evince
Truthmatters
they want to ride the bike
but they don't want to have handlebars, brakes and peddles
they think the bike will do all that its self
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Carmine
Loose Cannon
Any system depending on help from an invisible man in the sky is fucked from day one.
Capitalism is just like socialism...they're both segments of a balanced economy. No matter who wins in 2020, we're still going to have both public and private sectors, ie, socialism and capitalism.
What we need to catch up to the civilized world is a more comprehensive public sector and a more regulated private sector--in other words, a little bit more socialism. Otherwise, we're a full blown third world banana republic within a couple more generations at the most.
Human beings are just one of the more advanced (except for Republicans) species in the animal kingdom. We're not spiritual beings naturally looking to do the right thing. We're not even as good as dogs at doing that.
We depend on collective needs as a society to be motivated into doing the right thing. In other words, what's bad for the common good must be discouraged on a societal level. Political conservatives and evangelicals do everything in their power to get in the way of that dynamic. That's why intelligent people must prevail over them.
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Truthmatters
and you are so devoted to those answers you refuse to repeat them for me
I never saw them
you never gave them
you cant produce an answer
You are merely lying