What happens if Biden gets his $15 minimum wage passed?

[Legion]

Also note that these *high paying* minimum wage jobs often can't be filled because no one can afford to live in the city at minimum wages. One of the many stupidities of Democrats is thinking that doubling the wages of the working poor will suddenly make their housing affordable. It won't.

I've seen no evidence that DEMOCRATS "think".

The most "progressive" state in the US, which leftists never tire of touting as an economic powerhouse - also has the highest rate of homelessness, poverty and income inequality in the nation. If progressive policies pandering to the poor are promising, why haven't they produced prosperity for the poor in the progressive paradise?

 

[Legion]

Powerful Democrat psychopaths want automation. How to get automation? Have their duped rank & file parrots clamor for $15/hr. Oops - that caused people to be replaced with machines! WHO could have seen THAT coming...
...cackle the powerful Democrat psychopaths on their way to the bank.

Not to mention the widespread outsourcing and offshoring of jobs and industries that used to be American to leftist authoritarian dictatorships under one party rule.

The same powerful Democrat psychopaths also want large numbers of unskilled/low wage illegals here, both to keep citizens desperately poor/wages low AND to swell Democrat voter rolls.

Are you convinced that DEMOCRATS rely on real votes to win elections?

If the Democrats REALLY wanted wages to rise, they'd get tough on illegals. But the Democrat Party is a crime gang - an even more dangerous and hypocritical crime gang than the Republican Party.

I suspect you're correct.

 

[Legion]

But Democrat pandering! And virtue signaling!!!

It's worth considering the fact that DEMOCRATS have always been able to "help the working poor" by voluntarily giving them their own money, yet I've seen no indication that they've done so, as a rule.

 

[Legion]

Lol, yes, reopening will happen, because we will finally have an administration that knows how to handle a natural disaster.

Is that so?

Perhaps you can point to some examples of government policies successfully ending a pandemic.

Or, perhaps you can't.

Naturally, if the pandemic in question's societal and economic problems were caused by government policies in the first place...

 

[Legion]

Wrong of course. the min wage has been raised in many countries and also here. They have the data. it does not cause employment.

Freudian slip?

You think an opinion piece posted by the CEO of an advocacy group on her own website is "data"?

How many of the studies that Sklar cites did you review?

What was their methodology? Are their purported conclusions supported by peer review?

I'll understand if you avoid the questions, of course.

 

[BattleofHodow]

NO!

WRONG!

An economy is always, always, always based on demand.

ALWAYS.




Why would you have no production if you just increased demand by increasing wages??????




If your matter of practice now is to link to bullshit Op-Eds instead of the truth, then we can't continue this debate.

Until you act in good faith, I am just not going to entertain your regurgitated, uninformed bullshit.

You can demand anything.

If it isn't produced its useless.

 

[Legion]

Obviously you're delusional. The Democrat Party is the most dangerous gang of psychopaths since Nazi Germany. Wake up.

I'd say the repressive and murderous Communist and Socialist regimes that have infested the planet since 1917 served as role models for DEMOCRATS in many ways. The difference is that none of them had the ability to directly affect our nation internally.

 

[Legion]

You can demand anything. If it isn't produced its useless.

I suspect that many DEMOCRATS want the government to mandate higher wages and forbid layoffs.

If that doesn't work, there's always compulsory nationalization.

I don't recall JPP DEMOCRATS urging the oligarchs who support their party financially and practically to voluntarily raise the wages of their workers or face legislation. Jeff Bezos and Tim Cook spring to mind.

 

[Legion]

Have you ever worked in a minimum-wage job?

Irrelevant, Spametta. Even f someone claims to have done so, it doesn't lend their argument a modicum of authority.

Remember:

Claims made without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

Many minimum-wage jobs are found at large corporations like McDonald's and Disney World, which can easily afford to pay their workers significantly more.

Who told you that, Spametta?

Who gave you the authority to decide for others what they can "easily afford to pay"?

Many small businesses actually pay their workers more than minimum wage, and the ones that do pay only minimum wage have many employees working under the table anyway. (Think restaurants, family-owned businesses, sweatshops, etc.)

Is that right? Let's see your evidence for that claim, Spametta.

Remember:

Claims made without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

The small businesses that do pay minimum wage will just keep paying it but under the table, and the large corporations that pay it will simply increase their employees' wages without blinking an eye.

Are you pretending to posses clairvoyant abilities, Spametta, or are those guesses that you're positing (while stating them declaratively)?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I can tolerate conservatives better than I can tolerate liberals.

Democrats are in full Nazi mode, and have been for 5 years - this is very, very, VERY dangerous.

Anyone who can't see this obvious reality?

They're wearing partisan blinders.

They're also derailing/trolling the thread with irrelevant fallacies.

Me too. Yet I still tolerate all Americans who follow the law and the Constitution.

Disagreed, but both sides have become more authoritarian than I think is good for the nation.

Anyone who thinks only one side is evil and the other is all good is a fucking moron.

Political partisans love to wear blinders because they are often stupid little chickenshits. The Capitol riot is an example. Thousands just kissed their careers and freedom goodbye because they chose to wear blinders.

Partisan assholes never want to talk about the facts or accept any blame for the problems our nation faces.

 

[LV426]

Or, you'd see a giant spike in unemployment as workers got laid off...

Why would they get laid off if they suddenly had more money to spend? Wouldn't increasing consumer demand for 58,000,000 people lead to more hiring, not less? How do businesses meet that increased demand?

 

[LV426]

Why don't we just pay everyone $100 per hour?

"Why not pay people in cocaine and unicorns? But I get it. Your solution is we can't make employment more attractive, we can only make unemployment less attractive. 'Cause anything else is a moral hazard."

 

[LV426]

AKA My way or the Highway. I love how authoritarian Democrats look when the truth comes out.

Most Americans are not buying the shit you are selling, counselor.

No one on this forum needs to know who you work for or what you do but can you at least confirm you are not some corporate lawyer asshole representing the very same people you are fighting?

I can guarantee you this: I'm not one of them. I'm just a worker bee. I do understand the need for a Queen bee. OTOH, sometimes Queens need to be replaced. The Hive goes on. Just please confirm you are not a lawyer working for a corporation.

Look at this guy try to reposition himself on the eve of Biden's inauguration so he can elevate his vapid BoThSiDeRiSm because acknowledging that he had no hand in the transition to a new Administration (you didn't vote for it, you didn't support it, you didn't do shit) would render everything he's saying completely moot.

 

[CFM]

Why would they get laid off if they suddenly had more money to spend? Wouldn't increasing consumer demand for 58,000,000 people lead to more hiring, not less? How do businesses meet that increased demand?

They wouldn't have more discretionary money to spend. According to you idiots that push for what you call a living wage, that extra money would go toward the necessities you claim low income people can't afford to pay.

 

[CFM]

"Why not pay people in cocaine and unicorns? But I get it. Your solution is we can't make employment more attractive, we can only make unemployment less attractive. 'Cause anything else is a moral hazard."

Why don't we pay them what they're worth not some arbitrary amount you left wingers pulled out of your ass? If their skills are worth $2/hour, pay them $2/hour. If they can't live on that, doing without is a good motivator to better yourself.

 

[LV426]

Do you foresee having the government limit what someone could make? If you have a minimum wage why not a maximum wage?

Now you're talking...

I believe that wealth (and subsequently income) should cap out at $999,999,999.99. Once you make that billionth dollar, you get a ceremony and certificate saying you won capitalism, and you get a public restroom named after you. Any wealth over $1B goes right back to the State.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Look at this guy try to reposition himself on the eve of Biden's inauguration so he can elevate his vapid BoThSiDeRiSm because acknowledging that he had no hand in the transition to a new Administration (you didn't vote for it, you didn't support it, you didn't do shit) would render everything he's saying completely moot.

Translation: You're either with us or against us!

Fuck you, I'm against your political extremism and hatred.

 

[Son of the Revolution]

Translation: You're either with us or against us!

Fuck you, I'm against your political extremism and hatred.

ahhhh look dutch is a blm and antifa supporter.... fbi take note

 

[katzgar]

ahhhh look dutch is a blm and antifa supporter.... fbi take note

pats little moron on the head. The adults are taking over now so its going to be ok. run along and play in traffic like a good little inbred

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Another moron lefty who knows jack shit about economics...

And you are a TRUMPTARD- ENOUGH SAID RIGHT THERE!