What happens if Biden gets his $15 minimum wage passed?

Dutch Uncle said:
Translation: You're either with us or against us!
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When it comes to Nazis, yes. There is no Nazi-lite or Nazi-adjacent.


Fuck you, I'm against your political extremism and hatred.
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Your postured "moderation" is the most extreme and the most cowardly of all political ideologies.

It's the precise reason that government as an institution is unable to meet the needs of its citizenry.

It promotes laziness, sophistry, and disconnection; it offers no viable solutions to anything because it has very little thought behind it, and is only a means by which you can achieve the accommodation you otherwise wouldn't be given.

The fight for this country isn't along moderate terms...and "moderation" only exacerbates the division.
 
LV426 said:
Now you're talking...

I believe that wealth (and subsequently income) should cap out at $999,999,999.99. Once you make that billionth dollar, you get a ceremony and certificate saying you won capitalism, and you get a public restroom named after you. Any wealth over $1B goes right back to the State.
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Prime example of someone unwilling to earn his way.
 
LV426 said:
When it comes to Nazis, yes. There is no Nazi-lite or Nazi-adjacent.

Your postured "moderation" is the most extreme and the most cowardly of all political ideologies. It's the precise reason that government as an institution is unable to meet the needs of its citizenry. It promotes laziness and disconnection, it offers no viable solutions to anything because it has very little thought behind it, and is only a means by which you can achieve the accommodation you otherwise wouldn't be given.
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The problem, as all sane people can see, is that you label anyone who is politically right of yourself as a Nazi. You are on record calling over 70M Americans Nazis.

If that doesn't put you on the train to Crazy Town, then I don't know what does.
 
CFM said:
Translation: I'm a fence rider unwilling to take a stand

That's a sign of weakness.
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ROFLMAO. Only in the eyes of an ex-convict who is on the path to becoming a lifer in prison. Better start stocking up on chapstick, boy. :laugh:
 
Dutch Uncle said:
ROFLMAO. Only in the eyes of an ex-convict who is on the path to becoming a lifer in prison. Better start stocking up on chapstick, boy. :laugh:
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Your posts clearly prove you're a wishy washy, unprincipled individual. Your kind can't be trusted.

I don't need it. Your wife's pussy is juicy enough.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The problem, as all sane people can see, is that you label anyone who is politically right of yourself as a Nazi. You are on record calling over 70M Americans Nazis.
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If the jackboot fits...

Don't want to be called a Nazi? Then don't vote for one. Don't defend one. Don't support one. Don't coddle one. Don't expect to be welcomed back after doing all of that, either.


If that doesn't put you on the train to Crazy Town, then I don't know what does.
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So you would describe them as "economically anxious"?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
ROFLMAO. Only in the eyes of an ex-convict who is on the path to becoming a lifer in prison. Better start stocking up on chapstick, boy. :laugh:
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Dutch Uncle here thinks there's virtue in being universally hated for taking absolutely no risky political stance for pure appearances.

Ask a moderate to explain any of their beliefs and they can't. Or they just go juvenile because they haven't given anything any serious thought.
 
LV426 said:
Why would they get laid off if they suddenly had more money to spend? Wouldn't increasing consumer demand for 58,000,000 people lead to more hiring, not less? How do businesses meet that increased demand?
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They get laid off because their employer(s) can't afford the new wage. This is particularly true at jobs that have a marginal return on labor investment. That is, if someone making say $8.00 an hour produces $12.00 worth of productivity, then being forced to raise their wage to $15 an hour makes them unproductive. The result is the employer has to cut labor to rebalance that ratio. Or, the employer is forced to raise the price of their product / service. If people are then unwilling to pay more for that service, then the employer has to lay off workers due to declining profits and demand for whatever they do.

Raising wages has consequences. It isn't a something for nothing proposition.
 
LV426 said:
If the jackboot fits...

Don't want to be called a Nazi? Then don't vote for one. Don't defend one. Don't support one. Don't coddle one. Don't expect to be welcomed back after doing all of that, either.

So you would describe them as "economically anxious"?
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Bullshit. You're looking at lumberjack boots, hiking boots and even military boots them labeling them all Nazi jackboots because they don't agree with your politics. Most people know I'm right about this.
 
LV426 said:
Dutch Uncle here thinks there's virtue in being universally hated for taking absolutely no risky political stance for pure appearances.

Ask a moderate to explain any of their beliefs and they can't. Or they just go juvenile because they haven't given anything any serious thought.
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i hate being at the point where being a moderate is a bad thing..
but I dont disagree in that we are at a bad point where one has to take a side.

I realize for Progressive loons the idea of compromise is anathema -
but for most Americans we still expect politicans to compromise for the common good -quaint as that may be
 
LV426 said:
"Why not pay people in cocaine and unicorns? But I get it. Your solution is we can't make employment more attractive, we can only make unemployment less attractive. 'Cause anything else is a moral hazard."
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Not true. Here's an actual case where an employer raised everybody's wage / salary at his company to a minimum of $70,000...

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/ceo-who-raised-minimum-salary-of-employees-to-70k-is-doing-it-again/#:~:text=CEO%20Who%20Raised%20the%20Minimum%20Salary%20of%20His,wage%20at%20his%20company%20to%20$70,000%20a%20year.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/h...any-weather-the-coronavirus-crisis-2020-04-07

https://www.inc.com/magazine/201511/paul-keegan/does-more-pay-mean-more-growth.html

The first thing that happened at his company is that many of the highest paid workers took it as a slap in the face and quit. Sure the lower paid workers loved it, but now he was faced with losing what were some of his best employees. He in effect made employment less attractive for higher paid workers with greater skill sets. They saw themselves as now undervalued.

With Chinese Disease going on, this policy has also slammed the company in trying to meet salary while having greatly reduced productivity.

The guy is making it work, but it's definitely not optimal for either his company or him.
 
In places that idiot leftists never go (Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas), this proposed measure is going to really complement the local economies.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
They get laid off because their employer(s) can't afford the new wage. This is particularly true at jobs that have a marginal return on labor investment. That is, if someone making say $8.00 an hour produces $12.00 worth of productivity, then being forced to raise their wage to $15 an hour makes them unproductive. The result is the employer has to cut labor to rebalance that ratio. Or, the employer is forced to raise the price of their product / service. If people are then unwilling to pay more for that service, then the employer has to lay off workers due to declining profits and demand for whatever they do.

Raising wages has consequences. It isn't a something for nothing proposition.
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lol basic economics.
Business has to make a profit. they look at labor as a cost (which it is).
cut costs or raise prices is simple enough to understand, yet it eludes the Prog mind
 
Son of the Revolution said:
we are coming for ya pussyboy
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LV426 said:
Dutch Uncle here thinks there's virtue in being universally hated for taking absolutely no risky political stance for pure appearances.

Ask a moderate to explain any of their beliefs and they can't. Or they just go juvenile because they haven't given anything any serious thought.
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The fact you keep following an actual Nazi in condemning me is just more proof you've gone around the bend, dear.
 
Winston Smith said:
In places that idiot leftists never go (Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas), this proposed measure is going to really complement the local economies.
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paying $15 to retail or unskilled
means less workers is more ways to drive out physical workforce in favor of a virtual world.

That means less demand for unskilled labor though -a vicious circle to undercut unskilled labor jobs
 
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