Are all Republicans fascists?

[Ichabod Stain]

Repeal Citizens United!

fuck yes.

and the "kelo decision".

 

[BidenPresident]

Yeah. That would only be about 10 times the national average. In fact, lots of people set around all day, EVERY DAY, doing nothing but drink beer.

You would be drinking 8 bottles of beer every single day to start exceeding the legal limit of home brewing. And then, if you brewed more, who would know?!

 

[BidenPresident]

Since when has the actual law meant anything to a right winger?

I doubt that person has even attempted to brew beer at home.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I NEED MENTAL HEALTH CARE.

Agreed.

 

[Into the Night]

"Nightengale" sure loves bait and switch with semantics,

Void argument fallacy. Inversion fallacy.

"Dictionaries do not define words,"

They don't. That is not their purpose.

and to think for centuries people often look to them for that very purpose,

You don't get to speak for everybody. You only get to speak for you. Omniscience fallacy. False authority fallacy.

I guess there is some Google glossary out there like his Google list of fallacies that serves the purpose

Google doesn't define any word or fallacy other than 'Google' and 'Youtube'.

And it also cracks anyone up when the right starts generalizes the concept of Fascism, socialism is an economic philosophy, Fascism political,

Fascism is a form of socialism. It is a form of economics. It is government manipulation of markets.

but somehow with the right the two are the same,

Your redefinition fallacy is YOUR problem.

and the example they often cite is Hitler's National Socialism, which is erroneous.

Hitler's NAZI party was based on socialism using the form of fascism.

If Hitler and Mussolini were such socialists why did they immediately get rid and outlaw the strong labor unions prevalent in both countries at the time?

Competition. They wanted total dictat power over the entire economy. It's also why Hitler got rid of Stalinists, since that was also competition.

Hitler's early objective was to get rid of Rosa Luxemburg
And if all you have to offer is attacking phrases, forget it

Okay. I'll forget you said anything. All you have are attacking phrases.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

do you think capitalists ever commit bribery?

Absolutely. That's how transactional people operate; everything has a price. Ask your ex-President hero. He's knows whut I'm talkin' about.

 

[Into the Night]

Venezuela is a failed state. China is building aircraft carriers and planning to build a colony on the Moon and then Mars.

So? The Russians went into space too. What's that got to do with any type of government or economic system?

Do you think they'll throw a welcoming party when we finally join them? LOL

Do you think China will actually make to the Moon and Mars?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

So? The Russians went into space too. What's that got to do with any type of government or economic system?

Do you think China will actually make to the Moon and Mars?

It depends upon the end goal.

Yes. The question is "Will the US be there too?"

 

[Ichabod Stain]

Absolutely. That's how transactional people operate; everything has a price. Ask your ex-President hero. He's knows whut I'm talkin' about.

and when they bribe governments and politicians to influence policy, fascism happens.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

It depends upon the end goal.

Yes. The question is "Will the US be there too?"

do the ends justify the means?

 

[martin]

Wrong. Both Italian and German fascism relied heavily on Socialism economically. In Germany, the state planned the economy and directed much of production. The means of production were generally left in private hands--mostly because the fascists realized that kicking the owners of large corporations out would wreck the economy. Thus, the compromise of Statist Capitalism. The state dictates what the economy will make while the means of production remains private.

Mussolini was a long-time Socialist before he adopted fascism.





https://quotepark.com/authors/benito-mussolini/socialism/

The Nazis were equally socialist:


http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm

You know nothing of history.

Gobbledygook in part, evidently from a student of Internet websites.

The word "capitalism" as we know it did not exist in 1787 when The Constitution was born. Neither did the word "Socialism". The political term "Left" derives from the French Revolution where it described liberal minded delegates sitting on the left side of the chamber and that liberalism of 1789 is what defines liberalism still, a belief in democracy and the liberties democracy makes possible. The modern Right has converted these terms to economic skeletons, and even those are misconstrued. Socialism does not rule out political freedom and capitalism doesn't ensure it. Marx was a deeply thoughtful philosopher all but unread by his modern critics who don't read much of anything in books anyway. If you were able to tell Marx his ideas are antithetical to political freedom he would say, if he bothered to answer, that you lack even a superficial grasp of those ideas. But how could you be expected to be otherwise when you've never read his work or anything scholarly about it. The only thing that can be said with certainty about Marxism in the real world is that so far it has never been implemented. Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state in a war economy, further Right than was George III. Every work of political scholarship that defines fascism defines it as a form of authoritarian nationalism utterly suppressive of democratic values, placing it with Hitler on the far Right.

Righties don’t like to be thought of as uptight authoritarian assholes so they’ve mangled the language that describes them in order to look nice.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

and when they bribe governments and politicians to influence policy, fascism happens.

More like capitalism happens. Corrupt capitalism to be sure, but still capitalism. There's economic systems and political systems. Nazi Germany was a blend of capitalist under a dictator. China allows capitalism within certain zones but maintains the power to shut it down** as a Totalitarian Socialist regime.



**which would collapse them as a country. Even commies need money to operate globally. LOL

 

[Dutch Uncle]

do the ends justify the means?

No.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

More like capitalism happens. Corrupt capitalism to be sure, but still capitalism. There's economic systems and political systems. Nazi Germany was a blend of capitalist under a dictator. China allows capitalism within certain zones but maintains the power to shut it down** as a Totalitarian Socialist regime.



**which would collapse them as a country. Even commies need money to operate globally. LOL

legal lobbying and unlimited corporate giving to candidates kind of make it legal.

it's basically fascism.

what's funny is when dems think capitulating to the largest cartels and inculcating economic ignorance is anti-fascism.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

Gobbledygook, evidently from a student of Internet websites. Labels without meaning presented as scholarly truths. That comment is directed mainly to what is in the links.

The word "capitalism" as we know it did not exist in 1787 when The Constitution was born. Neither did the word "Socialism". The political term "Left" derives from the French Revolution where it described liberal minded delegates sitting on the left side of the chamber and that liberalism of 1789 is what defines liberalism still, a belief in democracy and the liberties democracy makes possible. The modern Right has stripped these terms down to economic skeletons, and even those are misconstrued. Socialism does not rule out political freedom and capitalism doesn't ensure it. Marx was a deeply thoughtful philosopher all but unread by his modern critics who don't read much of anything in books anyway. If you were able to tell Marx his ideas are antithetical to political freedom he would say, if he bothered to answer, that you lack even a superficial grasp of those ideas. But how could you be expected to be otherwise when you've ever read his work or anything scholarly about it. The only thing that can be said with certainty about Marxism in the real world is that so far it has never been implemented. Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state in a war economy, further Right than was George III. Every work of political scholarship that defines fascism defines it as a form of authoritarian nationalism utterly suppressive of democratic values, placing it with Hitler on the far Right.

fascism is the combination of state and corporate power, in case you hadn't heard.

tieing it to nationalism is a globalist (internationalist fascist) propaganda.

would you rather call fascism public/private partnership?

 

[Nordberg]

So? The Russians went into space too. What's that got to do with any type of government or economic system?

Do you think China will actually make to the Moon and Mars?

They have a space station is in orbit now. they will have astronauts stay for 3 to 6 months. yes, they will make it to the moon and Mars.

 

[Callinectes]

Were coming......

Holy crap! That was a shitload of democrats!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Holy crap! That was a shitload of democrats!

When did the Democrats ever join the military? LOL

Same goes for the republicans.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

I don't care what the Chinese do as long as they keep the restaurants open.

If the native Asians can cook as well as the ones in Boston's Chinatown,
they shouldn't be wasting time doing anything else.

 

[Into the Night]

Why do you hate civilization & the environment so much!?

Who said I do?

Taxation is required for civilization .
Just look at roads, schools, fire dept , etc

So?

Regulation is why lakes aren't on fire due to pollution.

No. Water doesn't burn.
Define 'pollution'.