New York Times: Second child dies of measles in Texas
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There will be no exponential growth on this one. Most of us are vaccinated against the measles, or we had it as a child. (I was vaccinated by the Navy as I somehow made it through my childhood without catching this one).
Anyway... If there is a larger outbreak it will be from third world immigrants and it will remain an outbreak, there just aren't enough anti-vaxxers to create a pandemic of the measles.
There was definitely exponential growth when the measles hit Samoa. In Samoa, most adults were vaccinated against measles, but the problem is there are new children being produced every year. If a couple of years go by without vaccinations...
Can that happen? Bush cut the programs that monitor vaccinations, and Obama was never able to get them funded again. We have no way of knowing how much trouble we are in.
There will definitely be exponential growth, but the question is where it will stop. I am hoping that at the end of all this, we only have a few dozen dead kids. Given how bad things are, that would count as good luck. We could end up with tens of thousands, or more.
lol. And? Children in the US are vaccinated against measles, and as I stated in my post, there simply are not enough anti-vaxxers to create a pandemic. At the most we get outbreaks, and a statistically non existent portion of our population may die. This is not something anyone should panic about. Just get your kids vaccinated and let god sort out the idiots who do not.
The reality is, if we have larger outbreaks it will be among third world immigrants, and it will not increase "exponentially" because... Hold your breath... You get to hear it again... The vast majority of Americans are vaccinated against the measles... even though it is what most think of as a "childhood disease" that doesn't often kill folks. (You should see the Brady Bunch episode on Measles for reference).
Enough of the children in the USA are not vaccinated against measles that we are losing herd immunity, and will have a measles outbreak sooner or later. It is going to happen, if the leadership of America does not show the bravery to push vaccination. Does anyone really expect Kennedy and trump to show the leadership to push vaccination?
You want as many vaccinated people as possible between your children and the disease. The more unvaccinated people there are, the more danger there is, even for the vaccinated.
One thing about the third world immigrants is they are highly vaccinated, so they are better off than the rest of us.
I hope you are right that the reports that less than 90% of the children are vaccinated. If you are wrong, a lot of people will die.
Enough are that only a statistically non-existent portion of our population dies.
I suspect that the percentages are likely to remain the same as they are now. While some folks will not allow mRNA vaccinations into their veins vaccinations like the one for Measles are not among that type of vaccination. So, anti-vaxxers at that level are even less than the folks that hate Covid "vaccines". The reality is, we have had about the same number of cases in the past, during Biden's addled "awesomeness" for instance, and nobody cared then, because he smelled more "Democrat" so you specifically didn't care.
Well, you can work with the numbers from the past, and use it to predict. Past behavior is the best predictor of how humans in the future will continue to act. Most folks are habit bound, like the idiots who love to change the clocks and think it somehow "saves daylight".
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While I recommend MMR vaccination it is not without risks.I'm glad we got RFK Jr. on the job to combat these measles outbreaks around the country?!!
CNN —
An 8-year-old girl in Texas died Thursday morning of “measles pulmonary failure,” according to The New York Times, citing records it obtained.
A Trump administration official told the paper the girl’s cause of death is “still being looked at.”
This is the second death in the state linked to the ongoing measles outbreak. The first death was in an unvaccinated school-age child in February. A death in New Mexico remains under investigation.
The outbreak – now spanning Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma and possibly Kansas – reached at least 569 cases Friday, according to data obtained from state health departments.
Texas has reported 481 outbreak-associated cases as of Friday and nearly all were unvaccinated.
New Mexico has reported 54 cases, and Oklahoma reported 10 cases – eight confirmed and two probable – as of Friday. Cases in Kansas, which the state health department said may be linked to the outbreak, reached 24 as of Wednesday.
Many of those cases are among unvaccinated people, and experts say the numbers are most likely a severe undercount because many cases go unreported.
Most of the reported cases are in people under 18, and experts worry about increasing hospitalizations, especially in younger children who are at higher risk of complications.
“The more children who get the disease means that there’s an increased chance that there will be more children getting sicker with complications from measles,” said Dr. Christina Johns, a pediatric emergency physician at PM Pediatrics in Annapolis, Maryland.
CNN did not immediately hear back from inquiries sent to the Texas Department of Health and the US Department of Health and Human Services.
HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr has downplayed the severity of the outbreak and faced criticism of the agency’s response.
Kennedy’s response to the outbreak has been “abysmal,” said Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Philadelphia Children’s Hospital.
Offit highlighted the secretary’s history of decrying vaccines and minimizing the risk of measles.
“The disease has returned because a critical percentage of parents have chosen not to vaccinate their children, in large part because of misinformation provided by people like RFK Jr,” he said.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/06/health/measles-texas-second-child-dies/index.html
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We have both said our piece, and time will tell.
The limited information we have is that the percent of vaccinated children has dropped a lot already. But again, you think the percent is much higher than we think, and time will tell.
Biden was unable to turn around the slide towards fewer vaccinations. He was lucky not to hit the tipping point in his Presidency.
Clearly, things have changed since the past. Vaccinations used to be required to get into school. Now things are different.
We know that the numbers of vaccinated has dropped greatly, just not by how much.
We also have no strong evidence for where the tipping point is where we lose herd immunity. We are in uncharted territory, without a compass.
FastLane
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In 2019 we had 1274 cases of measles.
Yes, a statistically non-existent population. How many died?
FastLane
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Hamas should use some of the money they stay to vaccinate kids with.Trump is good at killing kids. Not as good as Genocide Joe- but then he's just getting started.
At least 602,000 children are at risk of permanent paralysis and other chronic disabilities unless they receive the necessary vaccines soon, the health ministry in war-torn Gaza said on Sunday.
In a statement shared on social media, the ministry said: "The Israeli occupation's prevention of the entry of polio vaccines into the Gaza Strip constitutes a time bomb that threatens to spread the epidemic."
The ministry added that preventing the entry of vaccines was an indirect targeting of Gaza’s children, warning that this threatens to collapse all efforts made over the past seven months with the polio rollout in Gaza which could lead to "serious and catastrophic repercussions" on the already battered healthcare system.
"The Ministry of Health calls on all relevant parties to pressure the occupation to allow the entry of vaccines, and to provide safe corridors to ensure access to children in all areas" of the Gaza Strip, the statement concluded.
Following the outbreak of polio in Gaza, the World Health Organization spearheaded a vaccination campaign to protect children from the disease.
600,000 children in Gaza face paralysis as Israel blocks vaccine
Despite the WHO’s polio campaign reaching a high number of children in Gaza, hundreds of thousands remain at risk of paralysis amid Israel’s blocking of aidwww.newarab.com
FastLane
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I'm not sure how mom got three boys through measles back in the day.
Measles was eliminated, and now it is not. That is meaningful and determined by anti-vaxxers. There are over 500 cases now, and growing.
FastLane
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Almost 100% of fetuses aborted die.
In the U.S., an estimated 1,026,700 abortions were performed in 2023
FastLane
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At this point a lot more people got measles in 2019 than now.
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Imagine letting your child die of a preventable disease because your guy is President.
FastLane
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Maybe we should vaccinate against abortionists.
FastLane
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Have you donated to Gavi? Or do you just whine a lot?Trump is good at killing kids. Not as good as Genocide Joe- but then he's just getting started.
At least 602,000 children are at risk of permanent paralysis and other chronic disabilities unless they receive the necessary vaccines soon, the health ministry in war-torn Gaza said on Sunday.
In a statement shared on social media, the ministry said: "The Israeli occupation's prevention of the entry of polio vaccines into the Gaza Strip constitutes a time bomb that threatens to spread the epidemic."
The ministry added that preventing the entry of vaccines was an indirect targeting of Gaza’s children, warning that this threatens to collapse all efforts made over the past seven months with the polio rollout in Gaza which could lead to "serious and catastrophic repercussions" on the already battered healthcare system.
"The Ministry of Health calls on all relevant parties to pressure the occupation to allow the entry of vaccines, and to provide safe corridors to ensure access to children in all areas" of the Gaza Strip, the statement concluded.
Following the outbreak of polio in Gaza, the World Health Organization spearheaded a vaccination campaign to protect children from the disease.
600,000 children in Gaza face paralysis as Israel blocks vaccine
Despite the WHO’s polio campaign reaching a high number of children in Gaza, hundreds of thousands remain at risk of paralysis amid Israel’s blocking of aid
Our immune systems are works in progress. We have only had civilization for at most 10,000 years, which is not long enough to evolve to handle these concentrations of people. Add in the quicker travel, and our immune systems just have not had time to catch up.
moon
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Are you Chief Motormouth anywhere else or do reserve your adolescent Trumpism just for JPP .
moon
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Inarticulate numskull ^