War with China

tigerred59 said:
Do the math you moronic simp, Obama wasn't drafted, that orange bitch was
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Nope.

tigerred59 said:
and like the coward he faked out of service. Listen, I know Obama the black guy is a easy target for you white trash cans but come to the table with some new shit. Once you go black, I know its hard to get off the dick, but do try harder.
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Your King didn't serve - nor did Quid Pro Veggie Joe.

You're a hypocrite spewing mindless hate.
 
tigerred59 said:
and not nar one of my Kings is out here starting unnecessary wars....next?
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Another lie.

Your King overthrew Libya and Egypt on behalf of Al Qaeda. Egypt threw Obama's allies out after a couple of years. But your King and god started a war for no reason other than to empower Al Qaeda.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Another lie.

Your King overthrew Libya and Egypt on behalf of Al Qaeda. Egypt threw Obama's allies out after a couple of years. But your King and god started a war for no reason other than to empower Al Qaeda.
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Trump's approval ratings are lower than the belly of a ant. He's the most hated President in US history. He's a fool, a joke and if stupid motherfuckers like you want to celebrate this bitch, do you boo boo. But I am over debating sorry fucks like you over someone not worthy of my time, energy or purpose. So moving forward, you win.
 
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
At the least, it is thought likely that America will face strong diplomatic condemnation from China, economic retaliation, heightened risk of a naval standoff or incident at sea possibly an immediate full-scale war,

This scenario is not purely hypothetical; it aligns closely with President Trump's April 12, 2026, order for the US Navy to blockade the waters of the Strait of Hormuz and interdict any vessels that paid Iran a fee for access to the northern shipping channel through the Strait of Hormuz.

China has signaled it may deploy People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) escorts as "safeguards" for its merchant fleet.

Under international law (primarily UNCLOS), flag states have primary jurisdiction over their vessels on the high seas. Unilateral interdiction of neutral Chinese-flagged ships without UN Security Council authorization, consent, or clear self-defense grounds is widely viewed as a violation of flag-state sovereignty—potentially an "act of war" in legal terms.

American interdictions would spike prices, fuel inflation, and disrupt Asian economies (China, India, and Japan remain heavily reliant on Gulf oil ).

The real danger is miscalculation during an interdiction operation. This fits Trump's "maximum pressure" style but carries classic great-power escalation risks.
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fuck china.

we choose the hard way.
 
tigerred59 said:
Trump's approval ratings are lower than the belly of a ant. He's the most hated President in US history. He's a fool, a joke and if stupid motherfuckers like you want to celebrate this bitch, do you boo boo. But I am over debating sorry fucks like you over someone not worthy of my time, energy or purpose. So moving forward, you win.
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You sure make up a lot of stupid shit.
 
Explaining basic economics to Censored is boring. He should just read up on economics and get back to us when he is educated enough to discuss current affairs.

Uncensored2008 said:
So, zero impact on our debt and only has the potential to impact future borrowing.
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trump is borrowing huge amounts with his unbelievably high deficit, but even without that the old debt gets replaced with new debt over time. So as rates go up, the amount of the budget we are forced to service the trump debt goes up.

Uncensored2008 said:
How does it do that?
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It moves dollars from parts of the economy where they are locked down to parts of the economy that they move freely, and that drives up inflation.

Uncensored2008 said:
How would China selling securities to a third party "pull investment from the private sector."
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Most investors have to sell something to buy something. Most commonly they would sell stocks(private sector), and buy Treasurys(public sector). They are encouraged to do this by driving up returns on Treasurys.

Uncensored2008 said:
I assume you are very clumsily attempting to make an argument that jackass Krugman was braying in the NY Times, but royally fucking it up?
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Krugman has not been at the New York Times for a few years now. Reading his books might be a good start on some basic economics.

Uncensored2008 said:
Ohh, HATE TWUMP books, how impressive.
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The problems with a fire sale of Treasurys goes back to well before trump was anyone.
 
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:

How the Iran war made China stronger​


The conventional wisdom was that a destabilizing war in the oil-producing heart of the Middle East would badly hurt China, the world's leading oil importer, and its sputtering economy. It hasn’t worked out that way. So far, China is weathering the US-Israeli war with Iran better than many of its neighbors and looks set to emerge relatively stronger.
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China is rationing fuel, dope.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
Unlike Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump, who have launched wars against overmatched opponents only to face unwelcome surprises,
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Putin is not Trump, dope. Iran has already lost.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
President Xi Jinping has avoided unnecessary risks to position his country for long-term strength and stability.
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Buzzword fallacies (unnecessary risks, long-term, strength, stability).
China is rationing fuel.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
We saw Xi’s caution in his responses to both the COVID-19 pandemic and China’s structural economic weaknesses of recent years. We also saw it in Xi’s unwillingness to directly support Russia’s war in Ukraine, or even to recognize Putin’s territorial claims.
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China was the source of Covid19, dope. The Democrats used it as a Covid Hoax to oppress, and later as a tool to commit massive election fraud.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
Now we see it in Xi’s reluctance to criticize Trump’s bombing campaign against his allies in Tehran, or to come to Iran’s direct aid. The invitation for the US president to visit Beijing next month stands.

It helps that China is less damaged by this war than it would have been even a few years ago. Its oil stockpiles and strong refining capacity limit the risk of near-term fuel shortages.
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China is rationing fuel, dope.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
Pipeline gas imports and domestic gas production now ease its need for liquified natural gas from the Middle East. If the war drags on, Beijing can get more energy from friendly countries, particularly Russia, and can turn to both its vast coal reserves and its renewable power sources.
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Oil is a renewable fuel. Natural gas is a renewable fuel.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
The war has even provided some advantages. China’s fully-integrated supply chains make it better able than rival exporters to contain production costs. And the continuing disruptions to energy shipments through the Strait of Hormuz, which have sharply increased both oil prices and the cost of insurance for shipping, will boost demand for China’s clean tech exports, lifting long-term investment in electrification while diversifying away from oil and gas.
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Less than 30% of China's oil imports were from Iran, dope. They are rationing fuel while they are establishing other sources.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
These processes were well underway before this war – they’re central to what Eurasia Group identified as 2026’s second-biggest geopolitical risk, the growing divergence between China’s electrostate and America’s petrostate models – but the conflict’s destruction of fossil-fuel infrastructure and fears of more to come will now accelerate them.
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Fossils aren't used as fuel. Fossils don't burn.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
Strategically, China also benefits from a war that has weakened American firepower. The conflict has depleted US stockpiles of long-range cruise missiles and interceptors that will take years to rebuild.
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It doesn't take 'years to rebuild' and it is not depleted, dope.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
Those shortages are already rippling outward: THAAD components have been pulled from South Korea, Patriot batteries are unavailable for Ukraine and US allies in Asia, and the redeployment of US naval and air assets to the Middle East has thinned coverage in the Indo-Pacific.
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Lie. Synthesis.
 
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said:
What is the war on Iran teaching China about the United States’ resilience?



Whether the US-Israeli war on Iran wraps up quickly or drags on, the repercussions will be felt for years, reshaping warfare, geopolitics and energy security as well as how the world sees the United States and its tactical and strategic capabilities. In the second of a three-part series, we examine some of the implications likely to unfold over months and years, affecting the future of conflict in an increasingly unstable world.

As the United States and Israel wage war on Iran, they are also operating a real-time laboratory of military lessons for Beijing, which has been closely taking notes on how Washington exercises power and sustains a costly and politically fraught campaign.

Now in its sixth week, the conflict is a rare window for China to gauge American wartime resilience and holds implications for Beijing’s strategic assessment and decision-making.
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Iran has already lost, dope.
 
Walt said:
Explaining basic economics to Censored is boring.
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You don't know any economic, Wally.
Walt said:
He should just read up on economics and get back to us when he is educated enough to discuss current affairs.
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Economics is not a book, Wally.
Walt said:
trump is borrowing huge amounts with his unbelievably high deficit, but even without that the old debt gets replaced with new debt over time. So as rates go up, the amount of the budget we are forced to service the trump debt goes up.
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The President does not borrow money, Wally. He cannot add to the debt.
Walt said:
It moves dollars from parts of the economy where they are locked down to parts of the economy that they move freely, and that drives up inflation.
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Money velocity is not inflation, Wally.
Walt said:
Most investors have to sell something to buy something. Most commonly they would sell stocks(private sector), and buy Treasurys(public sector). They are encouraged to do this by driving up returns on Treasurys.
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Most investors have to buy something before they can sell something, Wally.
Walt said:
Krugman has not been at the New York Times for a few years now. Reading his books might be a good start on some basic economics.
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Economics is not a book, Wally.


Illiteracy: Proper nouns are always capitalized. Period used instead of comma.
 
Walt said:
Explaining basic economics to Censored is boring.
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Especially since you are utterly ignorant of even the most fundamental aspects.

Walt said:
He should just read up on economics and get back to us when he is educated enough to discuss current affairs.


trump is borrowing huge amounts with his unbelievably high deficit, but even without that the old debt gets replaced with new debt over time. So as rates go up, the amount of the budget we are forced to service the trump debt goes up.
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Red herring.

You made highly ignorant claims that China selling off our bonds would crash our economy. Obviously you can't support such idiocy - because it's based on political animus and has no support under any economic system.

Walt said:
It moves dollars from parts of the economy where they are locked down to parts of the economy that they move freely, and that drives up inflation.
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What does? Oh, you think we are already a communist society and that all capital belongs to the state. You are babbling - hoping to baffle with bullshit since you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

China selling Treasury bonds to say India, has utterly no impact on the U.S. economy. The U.S. government will repay the bond at the interest rate stated on the bond to the bondholder at maturity, regardless of who the bond holder is. There is utterly zero impact in the principle or interest that will be paid by the treasury.

You are economically illiterate Walt. You don't grasp how bonds work.

 
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