Trump has spent seven weeks repeatedly declaring victory in his Iran War. Polls show voters aren't buying it.

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Trump keeps claiming victory in Iran. Our new poll shows voters aren’t buying it.​

A majority say the war is not in the national interest, and many lack confidence in the president’s goals — including some 2024 supporters.

Seven weeks into the war with Iran, most American voters say President Donald Trump lacks a clear plan and many doubt that Trump is achieving his own goals in the war.

New results from The POLITICO Poll show that support for military action is weak — just 38 percent of Americans back the strikes — and views remain largely unchanged from the days following the joint U.S.-Israel strikes, even as the administration has now had weeks to make its case.

A majority of respondents say the war is not in the interests of the American people, and a plurality are still not confident that the president has clear objectives — including a notable chunk of his 2024 supporters.

Nearly half of all respondents also say the president has spent too much time focusing on international affairs rather than domestic issues, according to the survey conducted by Public First, including 29 percent of his own 2024 voters.

The findings suggest that Trump has made little progress in winning over the public on a conflict that has pulled him away from helping anxious Republicans sell their economic message ahead of November. He is now facing growing concerns that the war — and the ripple effect it has had on gas, oil and food prices — could undercut the GOP’s most critical midterm messaging.

“I think the biggest problem is, first, this war was not pre-sold,” said Michigan-based Republican strategist Jason Roe. “[Trump] campaigned against these kinds of policies and these kinds of actions and reversed himself on a dime, and so … the American people were not conditioned to prepare for this thing.”


 

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martin said:
There may be no winners, too early to tell, but it's beginning to look like we will come out of this with Iran no better than we went into it whaving depleted our supply of critical weapons and killing lots of men, women and children.
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on most of that.....,(I do feel badly about the loss of innocent lives, of course... keep in mind the number of innocent lives that the regime have taken.. they couldn't be ignored though for another 50 years...)
 
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Trump is facing an increasingly patient Iran​



Donald Trump has pushed to bring the war with Iran to a speedy end: He stepped up bombing raids.

He threatened to wipe out infrastructure.

He has attempted diplomacy and ordered a naval blockade.

But Tehran is in no rush to cut a deal.

Despite the assassinations of its leaders and the damage to an array of military sites, Iran’s regime seems to have benefitted politically from the attacks started by the U.S. and Israel.

In the U.S., the political costs are mounting; the midterms are drawing near, a critical meeting between Trump and China’s President Xi Jinping is on the horizon, and gas prices are rising. According to new polling, majorities of voters disapprove of Trump's handling of Iran.

Trump has previously said called the war a “little excursion” that would be over roughly five weeks after it started, then said the U.S. was ahead of schedule. He told reporters in the Oval Office Thursday that he didn’t want to rush anything.

“I want to take my time. We have plenty of time and I want to get a great deal,” he said, laying out how long the U.S. was entangled in other foreign wars, including Vietnam.

Voters are souring on how Trump is handling the war and the economic repercussions of the conflict.

A new poll this week of registered voters from NBC News Decision Desk found that two-thirds of Americans disapprove of Trump’s mishandling of the war.

The Trump administration and the American public do not have the stomach to tolerate a protracted war and will back off as the economic and political costs rise, according to Daniel Byman, a professor in the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University.

“For the Iranians, the conflict is existential, while for most Americans, it is best over and forgotten, with the hope that prices at the pump will fall soon,” Byman wrote in a recent commentary for Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank in Washington.

“This divergence shapes expectations about escalation. Iran knows that Washington will ultimately seek an exit, so they have incentives to prolong the confrontation, betting that incremental pressure will yield concessions,” Byman wrote.

“Bluffing, which Trump is apt to do, only convinces the Iranians that U.S. red lines are not real,” he added.

Trump has extended his deadline on defeating Iran five times now, always accompanied by severe threats.

Iran can hold out longer because it has years of experience absorbing economic punishment and could generate revenue by selling off oil it has in storage beyond the blockade, off the coast of Malaysia and China, as well as exporting gas by pipeline.
 
Cypress said:

Trump keeps claiming victory in Iran. Our new poll shows voters aren’t buying it.​

A majority say the war is not in the national interest, and many lack confidence in the president’s goals — including some 2024 supporters.

Seven weeks into the war with Iran, most American voters say President Donald Trump lacks a clear plan and many doubt that Trump is achieving his own goals in the war.

New results from The POLITICO Poll show that support for military action is weak — just 38 percent of Americans back the strikes — and views remain largely unchanged from the days following the joint U.S.-Israel strikes, even as the administration has now had weeks to make its case.

A majority of respondents say the war is not in the interests of the American people, and a plurality are still not confident that the president has clear objectives — including a notable chunk of his 2024 supporters.

Nearly half of all respondents also say the president has spent too much time focusing on international affairs rather than domestic issues, according to the survey conducted by Public First, including 29 percent of his own 2024 voters.

The findings suggest that Trump has made little progress in winning over the public on a conflict that has pulled him away from helping anxious Republicans sell their economic message ahead of November. He is now facing growing concerns that the war — and the ripple effect it has had on gas, oil and food prices — could undercut the GOP’s most critical midterm messaging.

“I think the biggest problem is, first, this war was not pre-sold,” said Michigan-based Republican strategist Jason Roe. “[Trump] campaigned against these kinds of policies and these kinds of actions and reversed himself on a dime, and so … the American people were not conditioned to prepare for this thing.”


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What goals?
 
martin said:
There may be no winners, too early to tell, but it's beginning to look like we will come out of this with Iran no better than we went into it while having depleted our supply of critical weapons and killing lots of men, women and children.
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I guess to incurious, unintelligent MAGATs like the one you replied to, this is "winning." Not one of them has shed a tear or even mentioned the school children killed by one of our missiles. Except for the hate-filled twat you replied to, who stated that "they shouldn't have put their school there." I kid you not.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I guess to incurious, unintelligent MAGATs like the one you replied to, this is "winning." Not one of them has shed a tear or even mentioned the school children killed by one of our missiles. Except for the hate-filled twat you replied to, who stated that "they shouldn't have put their school there." I kid you not.
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And all this is happening because of Trump's jealousy of Obama. One of the first things Trump did in his first term was cancel for no good reason Obama's nuclear enrichment deal with Iran. This is Trump's SOP - spite and jealousy.
 
martin said:
And all this is happening because of Trump's jealousy of Obama. One of the first things Trump did in his first term was cancel for no good reason Obama's nuclear enrichment deal with Iran. This is Trump's SOP - spite and jealousy.
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That's exactly it. One pathetic little man's ego has gotten hundreds killed, including children. The deplorable garbage that supports him care not a whiff.
 
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