Grow a brain and don't wear a mask

[artichoke]

Countries that closed down , mandated masks and social distancing have smothered Corona. They have very few cases and the ones thay have are manageable.
Due to righty thinking, if you can call it that, rightys like trump are pushing no masks and social distancing. Fuck the hospitals, nurses, doctors, health organizations, statisticians, accumulated evidence and international Epidemiologists. Trump knows better. You guys know better. You can cite some outliers. That is all you need to convince yourselves. The mass of knowledge is on science not righty beliefs. You rightys are the reason we have a third of all the corona cases and deaths on the planet. And you don't get smarter. You just keep scrounging up someone to say masks don't work and we can ignore the Pandemic and go on.

Despite 85 Percent of Mexicans Using Masks Coronavirus Cases Soar

 

[artichoke]

But your thinking isn't supported by science. That's the point. Studies on the effectiveness of masks in stopping this particular virus aren't available in peer reviewed journals, but their effectiveness in spreading viruses has been scientifically established. An expert consensus...

Every time the ALWAYS-scientifically challenged left resorts to this "ad populum" fallacy (this many people agree with me, therefore I must be right) combined with an "ad vericundium" fallacy (this important person or these important people said it, therefore it must be true), they are wrong.

Every. Single. Time.

As usual, the left has nothing but arrogant condescension and easily-debunked fallacies to back up their obviously false and repeatedly debunked argument.

Try again, dishonest demagogue.

 

[artichoke]

The US is leading the way with 4 million cases.

With a metric shit-ton of fake cases, sure.

That proof has already been posted. Try to keep up.

 

[Concart]

This message is hidden because Arminius is on your ignore list.

You were my first. That's how fucking stupid I think you are.

 

[Into the Night]

The US is leading the way with 4 million cases.

Total cases is not the infection rate, dumbass.

 

[tff]

Total cases is not the infection rate, dumbass.

According to my math...the US and Brazil are essentially tied for the highest infection rate.

 

[Into the Night]

According to my math...the US and Brazil are essentially tied for the highest infection rate.

What math? You deny mathematics.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes, the people who think you can be born homosexual but get to choose whatever made-up gender you feel like...the people who've been made 40+ wildly inaccurate global warming doomsday predictions...the people who've been proven wrong at every turn on COVID...THEY are the true champions of science, and anyone who notices all the gaping holes in this bullshit must be a conspiracy theorist.

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Quite right. They deny mathematics (specifically statistical math and probability math), and science (specifically the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, the Stefan-Boltzmann law, quantum mechanics, most of chemistry, and most of biology). They also deny engineering (specifically the N95 specification, satellite instrumentation and capabilities, and various chemical engineering practices, especially around hydrocarbons, carbohydrates, and polymers. They deny history as well, including history as little as a week or two ago...sometimes as little as an hour or two.

The Church of Global Warming, the Church of Green, the Church of the Mask, and the Church of Fear are all interrelated. They all stem from the Church of Karl Marx.
What they argue, they argue as a fundamentalist would, trying to prove their religion True, though all religions are based on faith. They must try to break down societal values, to be replaced with their own.

In other words, it is just Marxism by any other guise to hide what it is.

 

[Into the Night]

Every time the ALWAYS-scientifically challenged left resorts to this "ad populum" fallacy (this many people agree with me, therefore I must be right) combined with an "ad vericundium" fallacy (this important person or these important people said it, therefore it must be true), they are wrong.

Every. Single. Time.

As usual, the left has nothing but arrogant condescension and easily-debunked fallacies to back up their obviously false and repeatedly debunked argument.

Try again, dishonest demagogue.

Quite right again. Consensus is not used in mathematics, science, or history.

It is only used in religions and politics.

 

[TexanManWithPlans]

Three facts that make wearing a mask utterly pointless, to a point of being moronic:

1) 99.7% survive this sniffles that Democrats are trying to fear-monger into the Apocalypse (until the day after the election).

2) Studies show that ALL will get this either way. It WILL become endemic, just like H1N1 did (Obama was held to a completely different standard...Democrat privilege).

3) You have to use a scanning electron microscope to even DETECT virus particles. A cloth mask does ZERO to stop that. It's like trying to empty out a pool with a strainer. It's idiotic.

So, if it kills almost no one, we're all going to get it, and masks do nothing, then why all the ignorant hysteria from Democrats? Other than them simply being anti-science on every issue?



Masks Will Save Lives! (Fact Check: Mostly False)

Despite 85 Percent of Mexicans Using Masks Coronavirus Cases Soar

Masks minimize how far this spreads until a vaccine is developed. Is that simple enough for you to understand?

 

[TexanManWithPlans]

Quite right again. Consensus is not used in mathematics, science, or history.

It is only used in religions and politics.

Consensus is used in science. It's not our fault that science offends you Trumpers.

 

[Into the Night]

Masks minimize how far this spreads until a vaccine is developed. Is that simple enough for you to understand?

Masks do not stop a virus. They have absolutely no effect. See the N95 specification. Cloth masks are even worse. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). You are denying engineering. You are trying to eat your soup with a tea strainer.

 

[Into the Night]

Consensus is used in science. It's not our fault that science offends you Trumpers.

Consensus is not used in science. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. There is no elite voting bloc. There is no proof of any theory as True. There is only the falsifiable theory itself, usually transcribed into a closed functional system like mathematics, giving the theory the power of prediction. Such equations are known as a 'law' of science.

No consensus is used anywhere in science. It is just a set of theories. They must be falsifiable. That's all.

Science has nothing to do with politics. You just deny science, that's all.

 

[Nordberg]

Science uses the data and creates theories from it. For a theory to be accepted, every single piece of information they get has to fit. One fact does not fit and it is thrown out of modified. It also has to be testable and you can use it for prediction. It is science as up to date and sure as anything can be.

 

[tff]

Masks do not stop a virus. They have absolutely no effect. See the N95 specification. Cloth masks are even worse.

How would you know? Did you go to medical school?

 

[Into the Night]

Science uses the data

Science is not data. It does not depend on data. A theory can come from anywhere. If it is falsifiable, and it's null hypothesis has been tested at least once, it is automatically a theory of science.

and creates theories from it.

Nope. Theories can come from anywhere...even from watching an episode of Sponge Bob.

For a theory to be accepted,

A theory does not have to be 'accepted'. There is no voting bloc in science.

every single piece of information they get has to fit.

Information from what? Theories do not depend on data.

One fact does not fit and it is thrown out of modified.

A theory that is falsified ceases to be a theory of science, and also ceases to be a theory of any kind.

It also has to be testable

That's what I said. The test must be available, practical to conduct, be specific, and produce a specific result.

and you can use it for prediction.

Science by itself is not capable of prediction. A theory of science explains, but cannot predict. Only by transcribing a theory into a closed functional system like mathematics or logic can a theory gain the power of prediction.

It is science as up to date and sure as anything can be.

A theory of science has no date or age dependency.

 

[Into the Night]

How would you know? Did you go to medical school?

Denial of engineering. See the N95 specification.

 

[TexanManWithPlans]

Masks do not stop a virus. They have absolutely no effect. See the N95 specification. Cloth masks are even worse. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). You are denying engineering. You are trying to eat your soup with a tea strainer.

You're arguing with the scientific community on this now? Come on. It's really common sense. When you wear a mask, you're less likely to spread COVID-19.

 

[TexanManWithPlans]

Consensus is not used in science. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. There is no elite voting bloc. There is no proof of any theory as True. There is only the falsifiable theory itself, usually transcribed into a closed functional system like mathematics, giving the theory the power of prediction. Such equations are known as a 'law' of science.

No consensus is used anywhere in science. It is just a set of theories. They must be falsifiable. That's all.

Science has nothing to do with politics. You just deny science, that's all.

You're either a troll or a moron. The guy who denies evolution, heliocentrism, global warming, and now the existence of COVID-19 is going to lecture us on why he's right and why the entire international scientific community is "wrong" or "conspiring to [insert dramatic right-wing boogeyman here]."

 

[tff]

Denial of engineering. See the N95 specification.

Maybe you should enroll in medical school since you know better than everyone in that profession.