it's all they have- "rayycists!!" -they are clueless to the working men and women's plight
I Miss Martin Luther King
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I know, it's because "Desh" is an old name. I've seen ppl call others by former names too, including what I guess must be their real names. In Toxic Top's case though, she uses it because she believes that it's a slur on Evince, who she hates.
There are enough intelligent, mature, and/or entertaining people here to read and exchange posts with. My philosophy is to not waste valuable time reading or responding to racists, bigots, dunces, liars, or losers. And believe me, a significant portion of the rightwing contingent thrives on tepid insults, girlish gossip, scurrilous slander, and flaccid mediocrity.
My two cents: put them on ignore, thread ban them....or just watch them beg for your attention. Your robust ignore list looks like a hell of a start!
They were called Dixiecrats. they went along with some party platforms but fought anything that was for civil rights. They were already a party unto themselves. When LBJ signed the civil rights act, he said that ended the south for Dems, for a generation. it was a lot longer than that.
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
Yeah ... that should preserve your liberal bubble, no-free speech zone.
First of all, assuming I'm a liberal just because I don't want to hear your radical extremist right wing drivel is a big reason for the IGNORE.
It's all you fucking morons got. You spew the right wing talking points like diarrhea.
Second, it's got nothing to do with free speech but more to do with filtering out the posters who offer nothing to a debate and just parrot the FoxNews blather as well as use profane and juvenile rhetoric. Your rebuttals are petty and juvenile.
Luckily, I've done well in my 40 years as a professional and luckily, I have the resources that allow me to live in a nice neighborhood and away from the "deplorables" like you. Why shouldn't I do the same on this forum?
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
Another radical racist right wing nut job added to my IGNORE list. Congrats, racist hillbilly scumbag.
He's one of yours:
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Dylann Roof spat on and burned the American flag, but waved the Confederate.
He posed for pictures wearing a No. 88 T-shirt, had 88 Facebook friends and wrote that number — white supremacist code for “Heil Hitler”— in the South Carolina sand.
A website discovered Saturday appears to offer the first serious look at Mr. Roof’s thinking, including how the case of Trayvon Martin, the black Florida teenager shot to death in 2012 by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, triggered his racist rage. The site shows a stash of 60 photographs, many of them of Mr. Roof at Confederate heritage sites or slavery museums, and includes a nearly 2,500-word manifesto in which the author criticized blacks as being inferior while lamenting the cowardice of white flight.
“I have no choice,” it reads. “I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me.”
The website was first registered on Feb. 9 in the name of Dylann Roof, the 21-year-old man charged with entering the historically black Emanuel A.M.E. Church in Charleston on Wednesday night, attending a prayer meeting for an hour and then murdering nine parishioners. The day after the site was registered, the registration information was intentionally masked.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello evince,
I guess I must have simply misunderstood when you said:
We are on the same side of this issue, but it detracts from our good points to use stereotypes and exaggerations. Any adept poster from the right will simply zero in on whatever falsehood they can find, then your point is lost. If you want the right to take note of their oversights and face up to them, then don't give them softballs. Besides, there is so much solid material to work with. We don't have to make things up. The verifiable truth is all we need to point out there.
I guess I must have simply misunderstood when you said:
We are on the same side of this issue, but it detracts from our good points to use stereotypes and exaggerations. Any adept poster from the right will simply zero in on whatever falsehood they can find, then your point is lost. If you want the right to take note of their oversights and face up to them, then don't give them softballs. Besides, there is so much solid material to work with. We don't have to make things up. The verifiable truth is all we need to point out there.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
""I kept hearing and seeing [Martin's] name," Roof wrote, "and eventually I decided to look him up." Roof wrote that he "read the Wikipedia article" about the shooting and came to the conclusion that Zimmerman was not at fault.
"But," he continued, "more importantly this prompted me to type in the words 'black on White crime' into Google, and I have never been the same since that day."
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-roof-asked-google-for-information-about-race
IOW, the media lied to him. Obama lied to him.
"But," he continued, "more importantly this prompted me to type in the words 'black on White crime' into Google, and I have never been the same since that day."
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-roof-asked-google-for-information-about-race
IOW, the media lied to him. Obama lied to him.
evince
Truthmatters
I had every person on the right give me this answer (note I gave proof of Jeb Bush using it ) and have been telling them for years it was a racist stance
I posted a thread I created in 2014 just in this subject
the entire right from every level used to say it
what other explanation have you ever heard to the question " why do black Americans vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic party"?
everyone they give insults Americans of color
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
So he's calling all white supremacists ... internet cowards.
BTW, putting me on ignore can't stop me from replying to your posts.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
America wastes multitudes of potential productivity by harboring racism. Just think of all those poor black people and what they could accomplish if properly educated and motivated.
Conservatives are quick to blame the poor themselves for their own condition. They say it is because of a lack of family values.
Well, it's kinda hard to have family values when families are broken up by financial hardship and welfare rewards being a single mom.
Many poor families, even if they are together, are doing everything possible, both parents working several part time jobs just to make ends meet. What kind of family values can they have when they are too busy under financial stress to even have minimal quality family time together? How easy is it for the rich to claim the poor are poor because they 'lack family values' when the rich can afford to have a stay-at-home mom but the poor have to have both parents working all hours?
Blacks were left out of building wealth after WWII because of racism. White America was moving into new subdivisions, buying homes, qualifying for mortgages (the main instrument for building wealth in the middle class) as black Americans were locked out of good jobs and even if they could earn a good income, they were prevented from getting a mortgage in better neighborhoods by lender red lining. Mortgage companies would actually refuse to give mortgages to blacks, and refuse to loan at all in black neighborhoods. Charging black who did qualify higher mortgage rates, etc.
This still goes on today!
Conservatives are quick to blame the poor themselves for their own condition. They say it is because of a lack of family values.
Well, it's kinda hard to have family values when families are broken up by financial hardship and welfare rewards being a single mom.
Many poor families, even if they are together, are doing everything possible, both parents working several part time jobs just to make ends meet. What kind of family values can they have when they are too busy under financial stress to even have minimal quality family time together? How easy is it for the rich to claim the poor are poor because they 'lack family values' when the rich can afford to have a stay-at-home mom but the poor have to have both parents working all hours?
Blacks were left out of building wealth after WWII because of racism. White America was moving into new subdivisions, buying homes, qualifying for mortgages (the main instrument for building wealth in the middle class) as black Americans were locked out of good jobs and even if they could earn a good income, they were prevented from getting a mortgage in better neighborhoods by lender red lining. Mortgage companies would actually refuse to give mortgages to blacks, and refuse to loan at all in black neighborhoods. Charging black who did qualify higher mortgage rates, etc.
This still goes on today!
evince
Truthmatters
they republican party has worked to keep black and poor people from voting for decades
this American country is much more compassionate than it appears
the republican party is the party of the wealthy
they use lies and racism to fool their voting base into thinking the republicans are their best chance.
and they still cant garner enough Americans votes so they cheat their asses off
ID laws designed to keep the poor from voting and targeting populations of Americans of color
Gerrymandering to the point the Democratic voters have to get 60% to win
Using Russian money and intel to fix elections
this current republican party most die
Fox news must die
we cant allow these people to rob the American people of their representation anymore
this American country is much more compassionate than it appears
the republican party is the party of the wealthy
they use lies and racism to fool their voting base into thinking the republicans are their best chance.
and they still cant garner enough Americans votes so they cheat their asses off
ID laws designed to keep the poor from voting and targeting populations of Americans of color
Gerrymandering to the point the Democratic voters have to get 60% to win
Using Russian money and intel to fix elections
this current republican party most die
Fox news must die
we cant allow these people to rob the American people of their representation anymore
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So true. Funny how I mention a healthy diet is good for one , no mention of race, and you somehow twist it where you project your racism onto me.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?83735-The-Myth-of-the-Southern-Strategy-II
You make the assumption that all blacks eat fried chicken, chitlins and junk food, assume that I assume that, and say I'm racist for advocating a healthy diet, the same as any dietitian or medical doctor or anyone with a gram of common sense would.
I find your brand of racism at least as vile as overt racists because not only are you a racist, not only do you hide behind the "I'm holier than thou because I'm a liberal and progressive " meme, but you project your own racism onto someone whom you have no idea is a racist or not.
cawacko
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Look at this board for instance. People are far more concerned over an anonymous internet trolls dropping the n-bomb than they are about housing and neighborhoods. Access to "better" neighborhoods means access to better schools. But many of the racist land use and zoning laws of the past still exist today. Yet no one seems to care. Especially if you are white and live in one of the better neighborhoods with good schools.
cawacko
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The ultimate "I've got mine, F you attitude". Well done troll.
cawacko
Well-known member
Interesting article from WSJ black conservative columnist Jason Riley. A lot of nuance in racial issues and he points out how MLK hit on them.
Martin Luther King: ‘We Can’t Keep On Blaming the White Man’
Fifty years after his death, many pay lip service to his ideals, but far too few are following his example.
After Martin Luther King Jr. was shot dead 50 years ago as he stood on the balcony of a motel in Memphis, Tenn., riots broke out in more than 100 cities. There were also reports of violence on college campuses and even on military bases overseas, where some black soldiers refused to report for duty.
Federal troops were sent to Baltimore. In Chicago, Mayor Richard J. Daley ordered police to “shoot to kill” arsonists and “shoot to maim” looters. In Washington, so many fires were set that you couldn’t see the U.S. Capitol because of all the smoke. Gen. William Westmoreland, who commanded the U.S. forces in Vietnam and happened to be in Washington at the time, said the unrest had left the nation’s capital looking “worse than Saigon did at the height of the Tet offensive.”
President Lyndon B. Johnson responded by convening a meeting of the nation’s most prominent black activists, and the invite list is instructive. It included A. Philip Randolph, who led the fight to desegregate the military; Whitney Young, head of the National Urban League; Roy Wilkins, leader of the NAACP; and Bayard Rustin, a top adviser to King who had helped organize the seminal 1955 bus boycott in Montgomery, Ala., and the 1963 March on Washington.
It almost goes without saying that the leading civil-rights organizations today can no longer count people of that caliber in their ranks. Which may be the clearest indication yet that the movement is over and that the right side prevailed. If black Americans were still faced with legitimate threats to civil rights—such as legal discrimination or voter disenfranchisement—we would see true successors to the King-era luminaries step forward, not the pretenders in place today who have turned a movement into an industry, if not a racket.
Racial gaps that were steadily narrowing in the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s would expand in the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s, which suggests that the disparities that continue today aren’t being driven by racism, notwithstanding claims to the contrary from liberals and their allies in the media. It also suggests that attitudes toward marriage, education, work and the rule of law play a much larger role than the left wants to acknowledge. More marches won’t address out-of-wedlock childbearing. More sit-ins won’t lower black crime rates or narrow the school achievement gap.
Even electing and appointing more black officials, which has been a major priority for civil-rights leaders over the past half-century, can’t compensate for these cultural deficiencies. Black mayors, police chiefs and school superintendents have been commonplace since the 1970s, including in major cities with large black populations. Racially gerrymandered voting districts have ensured the election of blacks to Congress. Even the election of a black president—twice—failed to close the divide in many key measures. Black-white differences in poverty, homeownership and incomes all grew wider under President Obama.
Discussion of antisocial behavior in poor black communities, let alone the possibility that it plays a significant role in racial inequality, has become another casualty of the post-’60s era. King and other black leaders at the time spoke openly about the need for more-responsible behavior in poor black communities. After remarking on disproportionately high inner-city crime rates, King told a black congregation in St. Louis that “we’ve got to do something about our moral standards.” He added: “We know that there are many things wrong in the white world, but there are many things wrong in the black world too. We can’t keep on blaming the white man. There are things we must do for ourselves.”
King’s successors mostly ignore this advice, preferring instead to keep the onus on whites. Where King tried to instill in young people the importance of personal responsibility and self-determination notwithstanding racial barriers, his counterparts today spend more time making excuses for counterproductive behavior and dismissing criticism of it as racist. Activists who long ago abandoned King’s colorblind standard, which was the basis for the landmark civil-rights laws enacted in the 1960s, tell black youths today that they are victims, first and foremost.
A generation of blacks who have more opportunity than any previous generation are being taught that America offers them little more than trigger-happy cops, bigoted teachers and biased employers. It’s not only incorrect, but as King and a previous generation of black leaders understood, it’s also unhelpful.
Black activists and liberal politicians stress racism because it serves their own interests, not because it serves the interests of the black underclass. But neglecting or playing down the role that blacks must play in addressing racial disparities can only exacerbate them. Fifty years after King’s death, plenty of people are paying him lip service. Far too few are following his example.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/martin-luther-king-we-cant-keep-on-blaming-the-white-man-1522792580
Martin Luther King: ‘We Can’t Keep On Blaming the White Man’
Fifty years after his death, many pay lip service to his ideals, but far too few are following his example.
After Martin Luther King Jr. was shot dead 50 years ago as he stood on the balcony of a motel in Memphis, Tenn., riots broke out in more than 100 cities. There were also reports of violence on college campuses and even on military bases overseas, where some black soldiers refused to report for duty.
Federal troops were sent to Baltimore. In Chicago, Mayor Richard J. Daley ordered police to “shoot to kill” arsonists and “shoot to maim” looters. In Washington, so many fires were set that you couldn’t see the U.S. Capitol because of all the smoke. Gen. William Westmoreland, who commanded the U.S. forces in Vietnam and happened to be in Washington at the time, said the unrest had left the nation’s capital looking “worse than Saigon did at the height of the Tet offensive.”
President Lyndon B. Johnson responded by convening a meeting of the nation’s most prominent black activists, and the invite list is instructive. It included A. Philip Randolph, who led the fight to desegregate the military; Whitney Young, head of the National Urban League; Roy Wilkins, leader of the NAACP; and Bayard Rustin, a top adviser to King who had helped organize the seminal 1955 bus boycott in Montgomery, Ala., and the 1963 March on Washington.
It almost goes without saying that the leading civil-rights organizations today can no longer count people of that caliber in their ranks. Which may be the clearest indication yet that the movement is over and that the right side prevailed. If black Americans were still faced with legitimate threats to civil rights—such as legal discrimination or voter disenfranchisement—we would see true successors to the King-era luminaries step forward, not the pretenders in place today who have turned a movement into an industry, if not a racket.
Racial gaps that were steadily narrowing in the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s would expand in the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s, which suggests that the disparities that continue today aren’t being driven by racism, notwithstanding claims to the contrary from liberals and their allies in the media. It also suggests that attitudes toward marriage, education, work and the rule of law play a much larger role than the left wants to acknowledge. More marches won’t address out-of-wedlock childbearing. More sit-ins won’t lower black crime rates or narrow the school achievement gap.
Even electing and appointing more black officials, which has been a major priority for civil-rights leaders over the past half-century, can’t compensate for these cultural deficiencies. Black mayors, police chiefs and school superintendents have been commonplace since the 1970s, including in major cities with large black populations. Racially gerrymandered voting districts have ensured the election of blacks to Congress. Even the election of a black president—twice—failed to close the divide in many key measures. Black-white differences in poverty, homeownership and incomes all grew wider under President Obama.
Discussion of antisocial behavior in poor black communities, let alone the possibility that it plays a significant role in racial inequality, has become another casualty of the post-’60s era. King and other black leaders at the time spoke openly about the need for more-responsible behavior in poor black communities. After remarking on disproportionately high inner-city crime rates, King told a black congregation in St. Louis that “we’ve got to do something about our moral standards.” He added: “We know that there are many things wrong in the white world, but there are many things wrong in the black world too. We can’t keep on blaming the white man. There are things we must do for ourselves.”
King’s successors mostly ignore this advice, preferring instead to keep the onus on whites. Where King tried to instill in young people the importance of personal responsibility and self-determination notwithstanding racial barriers, his counterparts today spend more time making excuses for counterproductive behavior and dismissing criticism of it as racist. Activists who long ago abandoned King’s colorblind standard, which was the basis for the landmark civil-rights laws enacted in the 1960s, tell black youths today that they are victims, first and foremost.
A generation of blacks who have more opportunity than any previous generation are being taught that America offers them little more than trigger-happy cops, bigoted teachers and biased employers. It’s not only incorrect, but as King and a previous generation of black leaders understood, it’s also unhelpful.
Black activists and liberal politicians stress racism because it serves their own interests, not because it serves the interests of the black underclass. But neglecting or playing down the role that blacks must play in addressing racial disparities can only exacerbate them. Fifty years after King’s death, plenty of people are paying him lip service. Far too few are following his example.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/martin-luther-king-we-cant-keep-on-blaming-the-white-man-1522792580