If Russia tried to influence our election

[Teflon Don]

What the hell are you talking about?

Russia did orchestra an espionage effort to interfere in our 2016 election, fact, and they also did it to assist one candidate, fact

If that Russian effort was sucessful is debatable, but they did do it, and one campaign eagerly met directly with those Russians with the plans to aquire Russian aid in the election, another fact

Now Trumpkins can attempt to overlook that as merely "opposition research," but traditionally seeking aid from a outside nation who historically is antagonistic toward the US was not acceptable under any circumstances, in fact, it was only a short time ago your side would have labeled it "unAmerican

You lie

 

[Teflon Don]

Seems "earl" can't read;

If that Russian effort was sucessful is debatable, but they did do it, and one campaign eagerly met directly with those Russians with the plans to aquire Russian aid in the election, another fact

Now Trumpkins can attempt to overlook that as merely "opposition research," but traditionally seeking aid from a outside nation who historically is antagonistic toward the US was not acceptable under any circumstances, in fact, it was only a short time ago your side would have labeled it "unAmerican

Crooked Hillary lost right? Soooooo worth it

 

[Teflon Don]

So what do you think should be the consequences if a candidate or his staff is documented as meeting with the Russians, Chinese, Israelis, or Saudis with the intent of getting help from those parties in the elections?

From what the right is telling us, it would be just "opposition research," so no big deal

None as long as Crooked Hillary lost

 

[survivor001]

Tried to influence? Russia and other squalid elements of the world did have a hand at destroying the legitimacy of the 2016 election in 45's favor and in violation of U.S. Constitutional law and the will of over 3 million voters that did not vote for this Russian btch 45. Additionally antigovernment conspiring GOPers 45 cronies teaming up with Russia to destroy the integrity of the electoral college at voting for a demagogue in complete violation of the intent of the framers of Constitutional law at creating the electoral college to prevent demagogues, tyrants and trouble makers like Trump from getting elected. As such, this tyrant 45 is no real POTUS but a fraud and that goes for all of his fraudulent EO's, appointments and other acts coming out of that tRump House of unAmerican activities.

 

[katzgar]

How much more influence are the DNC trolls having or have had?

Just look at one poster on JPP who post, virtually all lies:

Reagansghost

there is no question about the russians trying to influence our election, they did it.

 

[Superfreak]

Got the facts wrong, her campaign hired someone who hired someone who hired someone who supposedly talked to Russians, not quite the same as sitting down in the US with Russians hoping to get help in their campaign

LMAO... her campaign hired Steele. The fact they ran it through a law firm does not change that fact. They then pushed the fake bullshit through the FBI and DOJ.

You are correct. It def is not the same. One paid for unsubstantiated dirt and then pushed the narrative with their pals in the media. The other sat down with people who said they had dirt, but nothing was done.

 

[Superfreak]

Tried to influence? Russia and other squalid elements of the world did have a hand at destroying the legitimacy of the 2016 election in 45's favor and in violation of U.S. Constitutional law and the will of over 3 million voters that did not vote for this Russian btch 45. Additionally antigovernment conspiring GOPers 45 cronies teaming up with Russia to destroy the integrity of the electoral college at voting for a demagogue in complete violation of the intent of the framers of Constitutional law at creating the electoral college to prevent demagogues, tyrants and trouble makers like Trump from getting elected. As such, this tyrant 45 is no real POTUS but a fraud and that goes for all of his fraudulent EO's, appointments and other acts coming out of that tRump House of unAmerican activities.

The stupidity in your post is quite strong.

It is the Dems that are trying to undermine the intent of the founders and the electoral college. The electoral college did exactly what it was supposed to do. Just because CA went heavy towards an unethical piece of shit like Clinton doesn't change that.

If you don't comprehend the design of the electoral college, then perhaps you shouldn't try pretending that you do.

 

[LV426]

None as long as Crooked Hillary lost

Right, because the ends justify the means for you.

You said as much before.

 

[LV426]

It is the Dems that are trying to undermine the intent of the founders and the electoral college.

The electoral college was to placate slave holders.

Now that slave holders are no longer a thing, we don't have a need for the electoral college.

 

[Earl]

[h=1]Remember Rosenstein: No Vote Counts or Election Results Were Changed[/h]

 

[Earl]

No one has been a slave or owned a slave in centuries.

 

[Truth Detector]

How much more influence are the DNC trolls having or have had?

Just look at one poster on JPP who post, virtually all lies:

Reagansghost

That one has gone full lunatic. I can't imagine how bad it will be WHEN Trump get's re-elected in 2020.

 

[JPF]

How much more influence are the DNC trolls having or have had?

Just look at one poster on JPP who post, virtually all lies:

Reagansghost

There is no “if”, the Barr summary states that they did. As does our intel services.

But there is one thing that the left should keep in mind and Paul Ryan said it best: Regardless of what Russia did in the way of sowing discord, hacking the DNC and Podesta, or publicly rooting for Trump….

Nothing kept Hillary from going to the upper midwest.

From ABC News:

=====
BREAKDOWN OF BATTLEGROUND STATE TRAVEL
CLINTON
Days spent there since clinching nomination on June 7:
FLORIDA: 15
OHIO: 15
PENNSYLVANIA: 15
NORTH CAROLINA: 11
NEVADA: 6
NEW HAMPSHIRE: 4
MICHIGAN: 4
IOWA: 3 (+ 1 event on the Iowa/Illinois border)
COLORADO: 3
VIRGINIA: 2
ARIZONA: 1
MINNESOTA: 1
WISCONSIN: 0
GEORGIA: 0

=====

She screwed up. You couple that with the polls showing that she had it in the bag and you had an over-confident electorate (I was part of it)
There is zero evidence that votes were changed after they were cast.

Did Russia influence the election? Yes.
Are they solely to blame for Hillary losing? No.

 

[LV426]

[h=1]Remember Rosenstein: No Vote Counts or Election Results Were Changed[/h]

So they say.

Why would Russia hack into the voting systems of at least 21 states and not mess around with the totals or registrations?

 

[LV426]

There is no “if”, the Barr summary states that they did. As does our intel services.

But there is one thing that the left should keep in mind and Paul Ryan said it best: Regardless of what Russia did in the way of sowing discord, hacking the DNC and Podesta, or publicly rooting for Trump….

Nothing kept Hillary from going to the upper midwest.

From ABC News:

=====
BREAKDOWN OF BATTLEGROUND STATE TRAVEL
CLINTON
Days spent there since clinching nomination on June 7:
FLORIDA: 15
OHIO: 15
PENNSYLVANIA: 15
NORTH CAROLINA: 11
NEVADA: 6
NEW HAMPSHIRE: 4
MICHIGAN: 4
IOWA: 3 (+ 1 event on the Iowa/Illinois border)
COLORADO: 3
VIRGINIA: 2
ARIZONA: 1
MINNESOTA: 1
WISCONSIN: 0
GEORGIA: 0

=====

She screwed up. You couple that with the polls showing that she had it in the bag and you had an over-confident electorate (I was part of it)
There is zero evidence that votes were changed after they were cast.

Did Russia influence the election? Yes.
Are they solely to blame for Hillary losing? No.

Do you honestly believe that if HRC had done a couple more campaign stops in the upper midwest, it would have cancelled out the brainwashing of Conservatives done on social media by Russian trolls?

 

[moon]

If Russia tried to influence our election

.......there would be an intelligent and compassionate president we could all be proud of.

Instead.................

 

[JPF]

Do you honestly believe that if HRC had done a couple more campaign stops in the upper midwest, it would have cancelled out the brainwashing of Conservatives done on social media by Russian trolls?

Yes is the short answer. I’ll expand later

 

[Teflon Don]

Right, because the ends justify the means for you.

You said as much before.

The ends justified the means for you as well. Remember when Harry Reid lied about Romney's taxes? When asked about it Reid said "He lost didn't he?"

I don't see you criticizing Harry Reid. So kindly go fuck yourself with a hot metal poker

 

[LV426]

Yes is the short answer. I’ll expand later

Then you're naive.

The list you posted showed Clinton visited PA 15 times in the final month, yet she lost PA...so PA was one of the states she visited the most and ended up losing it.

So why would her visiting Michigan or Wisconsin more in the waning weeks of the campaign have made any difference?

 

[LV426]

The ends justified the means for you as well.

Not at all when you're the one who literally said "the ends justify the means for me".