Michigan Republican Warns of "Constitutional Crisis"

archives said:
The problem with your point is “we will see later,” we have been hearing “later” for the last two weeks, scores of accusations, thirty six lawsuits, but the evidence has yet to appear, when does “latter” become real?
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Outsider lawsuits are NOT Trump Team lawsuits, moron... The Trump Team has only filed a handful of lawsuits, which are currently pending. None of them have been dismissed outside of the Michigan one that they withdrew because they had already received what they wanted to receive without having to go through with it.
 
Getin the ring said:
keep telling yourself that, my America is running on all cylinders, as prosperous as any of us has ever seen it.

watch what happens now
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The Clinton years were the most prosperous America has seen.

We're in bad shape right now. Over 100,000 small business have shut their doors for good.

Democrats always do better w/ the economy. We usually have the big crashes under Republicans.
 
Jerome said:
Why "later"? Why not now?

Why are all of these brilliant, cunning conspiracies only divulged in press releases and conferences, and never in court?

Does it have anything to do with not being allowed to openly lie in court and still keep your bar license?...

Hmmmmm
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What an excellent point. It's almost as sharp as the one on Stretch's head. :laugh:
 
BartenderElite said:
The Clinton years were the most prosperous America has seen.

We're in bad shape right now. Over 100,000 small business have shut their doors for good.

Democrats always do better w/ the economy. We usually have the big crashes under Republicans.
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Democrats playing politics is why many of those businesses shut their doors. When the goal of the Democrats was to hurt the economy, you can't blame Republicans.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
What an excellent point. It's almost as sharp as the one on Stretch's head. :laugh:
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These credulous deplorables hear this shit from Rudy and that other old bag in press conferences, and get their hopes up, all so the trump team can cover its campaign debts through the giving of these gullible morons who ACTUALLY think there's a road for Trump to overturn the election.

We're VERY lucky this time that the authoritarian coup attempt is being spearheaded by -- and supported by -- blithering morons.

The next time we may not be so lucky...
 
Stretch said:
It's the modern age version of ballot-stuffing. Now it's done with computers. Drag & drop the desired votes into a folder. Hit "delete'. Change the numbers. Hit 'save'. Voilà
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If this was the case then why did the hand recount in GA end up with Biden winning? A folder on a computer doesn't change the piece of paper that the voter marked. Counting the ballots by hand would reveal a different result if the vote was changed on the computer.

Oh wait.. that's right. The Democrats then used their secret ray gun to cause the people hand counting the ballots to see a Biden vote when Trump was marked.

At this point Stretch the only thing keeping you from involuntary commitment by a court of law is that you can still find your mouth with a spoon.
 
gfm7175 said:
Outsider lawsuits are NOT Trump Team lawsuits, moron... The Trump Team has only filed a handful of lawsuits, which are currently pending. None of them have been dismissed outside of the Michigan one that they withdrew because they had already received what they wanted to receive without having to go through with it.
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In blistering ruling, judge throws out Trump suit in Pa.

https://apnews.com/article/judge-throws-out-trump-suit-pennsylvania-87eaf4df86d5f6ccc343c3385c9ba86c
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
If this was the case then why did the hand recount in GA end up with Biden winning? A folder on a computer doesn't change the piece of paper that the voter marked. Counting the ballots by hand would reveal a different result if the vote was changed on the computer.

Oh wait.. that's right. The Democrats then used their secret ray gun to cause the people hand counting the ballots to see a Biden vote when Trump was marked.

At this point Stretch the only thing keeping you from involuntary commitment by a court of law is that you can still find your mouth with a spoon.
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RQAA

This is last time I'll repeat what I've already said in here.

"Next it will be contested, have a real recount of only the legal ballots. If just 1 vote is 'off', then the whole thing gets re-certified." (11-21-20)
 
SmarterthanYou said:
i've heard many trump supporters that think all they need to do is drag out the suits enough to prevent the electors from being able to vote, then trigger the house vote by state. that's their misinterpretation, that holding off the certification of the election then they can force a house vote of one vote per state
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A lawsuit cannot prevent a State from choosing their electors. I can force an election to decertify, but that State can still choose it's electors. If a State fails to do so, it abstains. No electors will come from that State.

If enough States will not choose their electors, there is no effective electoral college. Then the alternative method of choosing the President and Vice-President will be triggered. That is not a misinterpretation. We shall see if this will be required of this election cycle.
 
Concart said:
Stretch is a moron. 'In civil cases, evidence is presented in discovery'

ROTLFMFAO!!!! I guess she thinks there is no discovery in a criminal trial. Does anyone have a dunce hat that will fit for the long haul? There is no evidence. There is no lawsuit. Discovery is part of a lawsuit. It is for YOU to find out what the OTHER SIDE HAS. It isn't an excuse for not presenting your case to the court of public opinion. If there was evidence, it would have been presented long ago. You are correct, there is none.
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There is evidence. It is direct evidence.
 
Jerome said:
Fuckstick, evidence is presented at a motion to dismiss the case under Rule 12 (failure to state a claim) which is how literally ALL of these lawsuits are being dismissed. Moreover, motions for summary judgment also involve an evidentiary hearing. No, it's not just discovery, and no, the Trump team has not -- and cannot -- present ANY evidence supporting ANY of their claims, hence they're 0 for 36 in their lawsuits.
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They are not dismissed. They are still pending. There are not 36 lawsuits by Trump. Argument from randU fallacy.
 
Into the Night said:
A lawsuit cannot prevent a State from choosing their electors. I can force an election to decertify, but that State can still choose it's electors. If a State fails to do so, it abstains. No electors will come from that State.

If enough States will not choose their electors, there is no effective electoral college. Then the alternative method of choosing the President and Vice-President will be triggered. That is not a misinterpretation. We shall see if this will be required of this election cycle.
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interesting angle. thank you
 
Stretch said:
RQAA

This is last time I'll repeat what I've already said in here.

"Next it will be contested, have a real recount of only the legal ballots. If just 1 vote is 'off', then the whole thing gets re-certified." (11-21-20)
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Too bad you don't even have an inkling of how the process works. A contested election requires presenting evidence to a judge that would cause the election to be overturned if true. The evidence must be compelling and not just statements by affidavit of people that were upset by the result. I suggest you go read the judge's ruling in PA to see what will happen to your "contested" election.

In Michigan to contest the election, the petitioner has to name every voter that they are contesting along with their address and reason for the contest as to why they think the vote voted but was ineligible. A vague claim of fraud is not a valid reason to contest the election.
 
The meeting of the canvassers is on now. Well, they did just take a break. They are allowing witnesses and political people to make comments via computer.
 
gfm7175 said:
:palm:
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You should hide your face after you claimed that Trump had only lost one case in Michigan. He clearly lost the case in Pennsylvania as well as evidenced by the article I posted.

If you would like to read the judge's ruling in PA where he effectively told the Trump lawyers that they were full of shit, you can read it here.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.202.0_1.pdf

Are you calling the courts a liar for posting the ruling that clearly exists in spite of your denials?

From the ruling -
Plaintiffs in this matter are Donald J. Trump for President,
 
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