“Mt. Rushmore glorifies white supremacy” - The Democratic Party

How does gays fighting each other further gay rights? How does allowing looting and shooting further civil rights?

Exactly! That is my point. Do you not think BLM would be making it a point to say that? To show the difference? Why would they NOT do that?
They have said it as has been pointed out to you. Just because it didn't get as much press as Trump's refusal to speak out against bounties on Americans doesn't mean they support looters.

Unlike the Nazis who follow a leader and goose step in unison, most LW protests are as disorganized as a Kindergarten fire drill. It's why the Occupy Movement failed; no national organization. OTOH, it's why the Tea Party thrived but was also taken over by TPTB. Like OM, the BLM is only loosely organized and often local in nature. They are fueled by social media but locally organized. There is no national voice to speak for them like the Koch brothers spoke for and directed the Tea Party.
 
Most people believe in God but you shit on them for it. Why the flip-flop now?

I'm just pointing out that by your logic, most people are racist.
And no, most people don't believe in a god. Most people try to convince themselves of a god, but they don't really believe, which is why they don't follow their own religions.
 
I'm just pointing out that by your logic, most people are racist.
And no, most people don't believe in a god. Most people try to convince themselves of a god, but they don't really believe, which is why they don't follow their own religions.

Ummm, I don't see it. Perhaps if you posted more clearly. How is does my "logic" prove most people are racist?
 
Ummm, I don't see it. Perhaps if you posted more clearly. How is does my "logic" prove most people are racist?

Well you said someone is racist if they think race is genetic. I'm pointing out that most people believe race is genetic. Regardless of whether that's true or false, the point is most people are racist by your logic.
 
Well you said someone is racist if they think race is genetic. I'm pointing out that most people believe race is genetic. Regardless of whether that's true or false, the point is most people are racist by your logic.

Thanks for your opinion about "most people". I was talking about genetics and scientific research.

Any links to support your opinion on the matter? While you look for your facts, I have some of my own:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/10/genetics-history-race-neanderthal-rutherford/
In many ways, genetics makes a mockery of race. The characteristics of normal human variation we use to determine broad social categories of race—such as black, Asian, or white—are mostly things like skin color, morphological features, or hair texture, and those are all biologically encoded.

But when we look at the full genomes from people all over the world, those differences represent a tiny fraction of the differences between people. There is, for instance, more genetic diversity within Africa than in the rest of the world put together. If you take someone from Ethiopia and someone from the Sudan, they are more likely to be more genetically different from each other than either one of those people is to anyone else on the planet!



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/
In an article published today (Feb. 4) in the journal Science, four scholars say racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out. [Unraveling the Human Genome: 6 Molecular Milestones]

They've called on the U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine to put together a panel of experts across the biological and social sciences to come up with ways for researchers to shift away from the racial concept in genetics research.

"It's a concept we think is too crude to provide useful information, it's a concept that has social meaning that interferes in the scientific understanding of human genetic diversity and it's a concept that we are not the first to call upon moving away from," said Michael Yudell, a professor of public health at Drexel University in Philadelphia.

Yudell said that modern genetics research is operating in a paradox, which is that race is understood to be a useful tool to elucidate human genetic diversity, but on the other hand, race is also understood to be a poorly defined marker of that diversity and an imprecise proxy for the relationship between ancestry and genetics.



http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/science-genetics-reshaping-race-debate-21st-century/
If separate racial or ethnic groups actually existed, we would expect to find “trademark” alleles and other genetic features that are characteristic of a single group but not present in any others. However, the 2002 Stanford study found that only 7.4% of over 4000 alleles were specific to one geographical region. Furthermore, even when region-specific alleles did appear, they only occurred in about 1% of the people from that region—hardly enough to be any kind of trademark. Thus, there is no evidence that the groups we commonly call “races” have distinct, unifying genetic identities. In fact, there is ample variation within races (Figure 1B).

Ultimately, there is so much ambiguity between the races, and so much variation within them, that two people of European descent may be more genetically similar to an Asian person than they are to each other
 
Brown people might not buy that Blacks are still so oppressed, but they do agree that Whites are the main oppressors. And like every other group, Mestizos are fighting for their own interests, even when it hurts the white population.
So when white people are a minority, and the establishment is convincing everyone that white people are the problem, a lot of non-white people will be swayed to commit violence against us. Will it be all Mestizos? Of course not. But considering how much anti-white sentiment we already have, chances are there will be more than enough people in every non-white group to cause a white genocide.
And it's not like this is new. Hated minorities have always suffered violence throughout history. Whites are already hated, what's going to happen when we're also a minority? And it's not like Hispanics are above this. Latin America is probably the most racist place in the world.

My 'world view' is different than yours. I'm not worried about a 'white genocide'.
 
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/10/genetics-history-race-neanderthal-rutherford/
In many ways, genetics makes a mockery of race. The characteristics of normal human variation we use to determine broad social categories of race—such as black, Asian, or white—are mostly things like skin color, morphological features, or hair texture, and those are all biologically encoded.

But when we look at the full genomes from people all over the world, those differences represent a tiny fraction of the differences between people. There is, for instance, more genetic diversity within Africa than in the rest of the world put together. If you take someone from Ethiopia and someone from the Sudan, they are more likely to be more genetically different from each other than either one of those people is to anyone else on the planet!

I never said that wasn't the case. I even said earlier that "white" and "black" aren't actually races. Genetics are one of the things that define groups called Whites, Blacks, Asians, and so on. But I also said culture and experience matter. If your argument is that these genetic difference are unimportant, then that's a different issue. But your own link even says that morphological features are biologically encoded.
Now there is a lot of genetic diversity in Africa. Much more than in any other continent, which makes sense, since it's so huge. But no, different African populations are not more different from each other than they are to European or Asian groups.

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http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/science-genetics-reshaping-race-debate-21st-century/
If separate racial or ethnic groups actually existed, we would expect to find “trademark” alleles and other genetic features that are characteristic of a single group but not present in any others.


Not at all. A group of Mestizos and a group of Mulattos have European genetics in common, but they are still genetically different. Races don't need to have absolutely nothing in common to be considered different.
 
My 'world view' is different than yours. I'm not worried about a 'white genocide'.

Could you at least grant me that white people are widely hated in America right now and that when a country has a widely hated minority, the result is usually genocide?
 
Could you at least grant me that white people are widely hated in America right now and that when a country has a widely hated minority, the result is usually genocide?

:) I don't see that. Maybe I'm not on the right Social Media Sites?
People of all colors are on the Streets protesting 'Police Conduct'. Others have joined in and are 'protesting' about our (US) History.

Let's take Columbus. Great discovery for Europe to unload their overcrowded Cities, spread their Language and Culture, ... not so great for the Tribes of the Native People. French, English, Portuguese, and Spanish language and power has come to the New*World, wiping out that which was here. I could see why Native People would be upset about that.

My Position: Swap out the 'Columbus Day' artifact and replace it with a 'Dia de La Raza' emphasis. In other words, exchange the 'Glory of European Conquest' to a day celebrating 'Racial Mixture'.
Americans are 'Heinz 57', we all have a dozen bloodlines in us. A good way to view the World in an objective manor, not based on Nationality or biased towards a particular ethnic group.
 
Could you at least grant me that white people are widely hated in America right now and that when a country has a widely hated minority, the result is usually genocide?

Do you mind telling me where you live? I would be interested in your Location as to a factor in your viewpoint.
 
Yep. Through the media. The BLM is not supporting violence. Go look on their site. Do you see them supporting looting and rioting anywhere? Do you see them supporting lawless country anywhere?

Yes, and the Palestinians don’t support terrorism.

It’s the same song and dance.
 
Well you said someone is racist if they think race is genetic. I'm pointing out that most people believe race is genetic. Regardless of whether that's true or false, the point is most people are racist by your logic.

The genetic differences between races are trivial from a biological standpoint.
 
Thanks for the confession. I'm simply pointing out that your interests are not in the best interests of Americans. Do you deny that the more the US deteriorates the better for Britain? Do you really think the British Empire can be restored?....or do you favor Orwell's "Oceania"?

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Can't say I'm bothered. I could soon brush up my Chinese! :) What the buggery have these silly games got to do with anybody except the big bosses?
 
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