Some of my less learned posters need a primer on impeachable offences.

[anatta]

In Federalist 65, one of the principal architects of the Constitution Alexander Hamilton wrote that impeachable offenses are those that arise from the "misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust."He explains that "high crimes and misdemeanors" is a common law term used to describe offences that are "political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.

As you may or not have learned in your provencal schools, the executive is not the only constitutional officer who can be impeached. Judicial officers have more often been the subject of impeachment, using the same standard laid out by the Constitution, and in those cases less than a third have been impeached due to statutorily criminal offences. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44260.pdf (page 9) Interestingly, Federal Judge John Pickering was impeached and convicted for, among other things,
appearing on the bench “in a state of total intoxication.” ibid. This was not a crime.

President Johnson was specifically impeached for violating the Tenure of Office Act, which was not a criminal statute and violation of it was not a criminal act. HE was also impeached for criticizing Congress and questioning its legislative authority. These are not criminal acts.

As you can see, historical precedent illustrates, that while it appears that President Trump has committed several criminal acts, impeachment does not require such.


So PLEASE stop spewing your uneducated crap. Thank you!

Idiot.
Johnson offense is widely looked at as a bad impeachment. If you want to quote Federalist papers, I can quote Madison saying "maladministration" (abuse of power") is not an impeachable offense.


But the text is the final and only true say : "high crimes and misdemeanors"

 

[Ichabod Stain]

good is winning everywhere!

 

[Jarod]

Idiot.
Johnson offense is widely looked at as a bad impeachment. If you want to quote Federalist papers, I can quote Madison saying "maladministration" (abuse of power") is not an impeachable offense.


But the text is the final and only true say : "high crimes and misdemeanors"

Quote it, Id like to see it in context.... Where in the Federalist papers.

 

[anatta]

Quote it, Id like to see it in context.... Where in the Federalist papers.

In Federalist 65, Hamilton made an extended argument for the states to ratify a Constitution with an Impeachment Clause. The Founders and some of Hamilton’s audience were familiar with the concept from English law and several state constitutions had impeachment provisions for “maladministration,” a term Madison objected to and which caused Mason to add “high crimes and misdemeanors” to the clause as its replacement.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/what-the-founders-thought-about-impeachment-and-the-president

 

[Getin the ring]

suddenly everyone is a constitutional scholar

God I love google

 

[Jarod]

suddenly everyone is a constitutional scholar

God I love google

Having studied the Constitution I can say the above is accurate, rebut it if you chose.

 

[CFM]

In Federalist 65, one of the principal architects of the Constitution Alexander Hamilton wrote that impeachable offenses are those that arise from the "misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust."He explains that "high crimes and misdemeanors" is a common law term used to describe offences that are "political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.

As you may or not have learned in your provencal schools, the executive is not the only constitutional officer who can be impeached. Judicial officers have more often been the subject of impeachment, using the same standard laid out by the Constitution, and in those cases less than a third have been impeached due to statutorily criminal offences. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44260.pdf (page 9) Interestingly, Federal Judge John Pickering was impeached and convicted for, among other things,
appearing on the bench “in a state of total intoxication.” ibid. This was not a crime.

President Johnson was specifically impeached for violating the Tenure of Office Act, which was not a criminal statute and violation of it was not a criminal act. HE was also impeached for criticizing Congress and questioning its legislative authority. These are not criminal acts.

As you can see, historical precedent illustrates, that while it appears that President Trump has committed several criminal acts, impeachment does not require such.


So PLEASE stop spewing your uneducated crap. Thank you!

What you need to learn to do as accept a political ass kicking when you get it rather than promote a farce because your cunt Hillary lost in 2016.

 

[CFM]

Having studied the Constitution I can say the above is accurate, rebut it if you chose.

Obviously not.

What you're doing is using the "because I said so" argument.

Having studied the Constitution, I can say, without a doubt, your claim is full of shit.

 

[Nordberg]

I can smell the stench of desperation from the left.

It is a rare smell for you. it is fact and law. That is not a normal for rightys to smell. A new experience for the right.

 

[Jarod]

What you need to learn to do as accept a political ass kicking when you get it rather than promote a farce because your cunt Hillary lost in 2016.

Just resort to the party line, don’t refute the point.... perfect Trumpper!

 

[Jarod]

Obviously not.

What you're doing is using the "because I said so" argument.

Having studied the Constitution, I can say, without a doubt, your claim is full of shit.

Please refer to the opening post to see the argument, unrefutable.

 

[Flash]

Judges are a poor example.
they can be removed for abuse of power because the do not face an election -they are appointed.

Because Impeachment of a POTUS OVERTURNS THE DIRECT WILL OF THE PEOPLE -a higher bar
( High crimes and Misdemeanors) is used.
The text is clear. looking at Parliament isn't useful since a PM can be called on a snap election..


Bottom line impeaching a POTUS is a grave matter that effects the entire country, not just a judge
Because of such high bar, the TEXT makes it clear a crime of Office is needed to remove.

The TEXT is the ultimate authority

There is no distinction between elected and appointed officials.

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

 

[Getin the ring]

The real shame here is that the American people have to watch this charade repeat the same thing over again that they repeated over and over again for 6 months

the irony is the American people are watching, we're a smart lot, we smell BS from a mile away

 

[Nordberg]

So trump could just fly off to Scotland and play golf for the next year and since it is not covered by the founding fathers, we could not impeach him?

 

[Getin the ring]

So trump could just fly off to Scotland and play golf for the next year and since it is not covered by the founding fathers, we could not impeach him?

you're catching on..
you can't overthrow an American Democratic election because you don't like someone, your thick head doesn't understand that, but most of us do

 

[Earl]

It’s not up to the Senate to now try to help the House’s flawed and illegal inquiry by entertaining witnesses or curing a defective process.

 

[Jarod]

So nobody with an argument as to why I am wrong? Figured.

Get an education you fools.

 

[Truth Detector]

In Federalist 65, one of the principal architects of the Constitution Alexander Hamilton wrote that impeachable offenses are those that arise from the "misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust."He explains that "high crimes and misdemeanors" is a common law term used to describe offences that are "political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.

As you may or not have learned in your provencal schools, the executive is not the only constitutional officer who can be impeached. Judicial officers have more often been the subject of impeachment, using the same standard laid out by the Constitution, and in those cases less than a third have been impeached due to statutorily criminal offences. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44260.pdf (page 9) Interestingly, Federal Judge John Pickering was impeached and convicted for, among other things,
appearing on the bench “in a state of total intoxication.” ibid. This was not a crime.

President Johnson was specifically impeached for violating the Tenure of Office Act, which was not a criminal statute and violation of it was not a criminal act. HE was also impeached for criticizing Congress and questioning its legislative authority. These are not criminal acts.

As you can see, historical precedent illustrates, that while it appears that President Trump has committed several criminal acts, impeachment does not require such.


So PLEASE stop spewing your uneducated crap. Thank you!

The only one's spewing uneducated crap in here are you leftist loons who swallow the bullshit being fed to you by leftist loons like Adam Schiff.

The CONSTITUTION; READ it:

“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”.

 

[Micawber]

“Anyone who wishes to be president should support an impeachment clause, because the alternative is assassination.”

-Benjamin Franklin

 

[StoneByStone]

In Federalist 65, one of the principal architects of the Constitution Alexander Hamilton wrote that impeachable offenses are those that arise from the "misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust."He explains that "high crimes and misdemeanors" is a common law term used to describe offences that are "political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.

As you may or not have learned in your provencal schools, the executive is not the only constitutional officer who can be impeached. Judicial officers have more often been the subject of impeachment, using the same standard laid out by the Constitution, and in those cases less than a third have been impeached due to statutorily criminal offences. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44260.pdf (page 9) Interestingly, Federal Judge John Pickering was impeached and convicted for, among other things,
appearing on the bench “in a state of total intoxication.” ibid. This was not a crime.

President Johnson was specifically impeached for violating the Tenure of Office Act, which was not a criminal statute and violation of it was not a criminal act. HE was also impeached for criticizing Congress and questioning its legislative authority. These are not criminal acts.

As you can see, historical precedent illustrates, that while it appears that President Trump has committed several criminal acts, impeachment does not require such.


So PLEASE stop spewing your uneducated crap. Thank you!

I don't doubt that the Unhinged Right knows nothing about impeachment, as they keep calling it a "coup" despite it being both legal and non-violent.