The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born

ThatOwlWoman said:
As a citizen is it both my right and duty to call out the president and any other elected derp who is damaging our country and/or our people. *All* of our ppl, not just certain ones. Just like with those on your side of the aisle, when I get called vile and "vicious" names for my beliefs, they're going to get it right back.

You deflected, of course, from my question with a personal attack. Why do you see disagreements as hate?

I'm with you on molesters. I'll bring the ammo if you'll bring the guns.
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I bet the taxpayers have spent more money flying trump and his wife back and forth to Mar-a-Lago and NYC than all of the Obama family vacations put together.
 
rjhenn said:
IOW your political views take precedence over your religious "beliefs".
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Not at all. A person's political and religious views may be very consistent in his view. It is just some other person who is trying to make political points by the lame argument that "...if you really believed in the Bible you would not hold that political view."
 
Flash said:
Not at all. A person's political and religious views may be very consistent in his view. It is just some other person who is trying to make political points by the lame argument that "...if you really believed in the Bible you would not hold that political view."
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It's more than obvious that many political views are incompatible with the Bible. Some on both sides, but mostly on the right.

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rjhenn said:
It's more than obvious that many political views are incompatible with the Bible. Some on both sides, but mostly on the right.
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But not the quote about foreigners that started this thread. I don't think there is anything political about being good to foreigners.
 
Flash said:
But not the quote about foreigners that started this thread. I don't think there is anything political about being good to foreigners.
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The "political" part is the right's consistent hatred for foreigners.

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ThatOwlWoman said:
As a citizen is it both my right and duty to call out the president and any other elected derp who is damaging our country and/or our people. *All* of our ppl, not just certain ones. Just like with those on your side of the aisle, when I get called vile and "vicious" names for my beliefs, they're going to get it right back.

You deflected, of course, from my question with a personal attack. Why do you see disagreements as hate?

I'm with you on molesters. I'll bring the ammo if you'll bring the guns.
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So then you agree with calling me a Nazi and a racist? The president a Nazi and racist too?
Personal attack? Where in my post is there a personal attack? Where's the deflection?

I have more than enough ammo for the guns I regularly shoot (and a few I don't).
 
rjhenn said:
Trump is on track to spend more taxpayer money on his own vacations in just 4 years than the Obamas spent in 8. And not a word from his faithful cultists.

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Do you have data on those figures? Then subtract what he saves in taking no salary.
 
Flash said:
Not really. It means that a religious person does not have to adopt a particular political view just to be consistent with somebody else's interpretation of what his religion teaches. How a person treats foreigners has nothing to do with "speaking out" about government enforcement of immigration laws.
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What it means is that your religious beliefs are meaningless. You change them on a whim to support your political beliefs.

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RB 60 said:
Where's the figures?
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According to GAO, Trump took four trips alone to Mar-A-Lago in Feb. 2017, a few weeks after being sworn into office. Those trips cost taxpayers $13.5M. (source: https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/696512.pdf) How many trips to FL and to his other properties has he taken in the 2-1/2 years since?

By contrast, Obama's non-presidential travel costs were ~ $100M spread out over eight years.

"Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group, obtained government records in December 2016 near the end of the Obama administration and summarized the Obama family's eight years of travel, putting the known cost at $96.9 million. "The Obamas' notorious abuse of presidential travel perks wasted military resources and stressed the Secret Service. Judicial Watch estimates that the final costs of Obama's unnecessary vacation and political travel will well exceed $100 million," Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said in December. At that time, he added: "President-elect Trump can immediately save taxpayers money by reforming presidential travel." *

* (Note that Judicial Watch is including in the ~$100M figure "political travel." You know, like Toadstool's many, many political rallies.)

"What is Fitton saying about Trump's travels so far? "It's a rather obvious use of taxpayer resources for seemingly unnecessary purposes."" (source: https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/when-vacations-cost-millions/2320612 )

From Forbes (July 2019):

"From a combination of an analysis from the HuffPost, the GAO or General Accounting Office, Politico and the Washington Post using costs from both Obama and Trump golf trips the estimated cost of Trump’s visits so far come to a range of $105 to $108 million. When you extrapolate the $105 million estimate to eight years, assuming Trump is re-elected, the total cost is over $340 million." (source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...cost-taxpayers-over-340-million/#47ac3de528aa )
 
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