The obvious is in plain site,

Matt Dillon said:
Yeahh.. None of that is me.
I strung up my neighbor's clothesline. Try doing that with an HOA.
I deal with people that have HOA's, so I feel for people that do. If Trump wins again..he should declare all HOA contracts null and void based on the right to own property.
Stick it to the mini gestapos!
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Hawkeye10 said:
Unless your HOA is a front for a management company that gets all the money...them and their "Approved Contractors"....so you know there are kickbacks.

For them it is all about money, anything else they rarely give a shit about, except staying legal....which is a whole different level of corruption.
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I do not have an HOA, brah.
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archives said:
Wrong, New York numbers were high at the offset of the pandemic, when the virus entered the US via NYC, since then they went from thousands dead a day down to five.

Florida, starting with scant numbers, and even with the knowledge learned over the last five months, has managed to go in the opposite direction of New York

One State followed Trump’s “recommendations,” the other, ignored Trump, as I said, it couldn’t be any more obvious
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And they came through it without trashing their economy or getting NY style numbers.

You left out that part.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Unless your HOA is a front for a management company that gets all the money...them and their "Approved Contractors"....so you know there are kickbacks.

For them it is all about money, anything else they rarely give a shit about, except staying legal....which is a whole different level of corruption.
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Yeah, we don't have those. I still strung up a clothesline for my neighbor. Who's going to complain? Me? I think not! :laugh:
 
Darth Omar said:
They stumbled and bumbled their way to herd immunity.
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What % of a population has to have been infected to achieve herd immunity? And how long does immunity have to last?

They re-opened in stages, following CDC guidelines. They emphasized distancing, masks, washing hands, testing & tracing.

All very simple, and proven. And it worked. It's too bad people can't put partisanship aside to acknowledge & follow a good example, for the sake of the greater good.
 
Sure does look like the Elite have sold America down the river the The New Chinese Empire dont it.

We certainly know that lots of them hate America, they often admit it, and they sure do act like it.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Is there something wrong with that?
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Nope, my intent was to talk here on this political site about how I find my HOA....I thought I might talk about what a corrupt non functioning Shit Pile it is.

Thought I might be able to strike up on conversation on the subject.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Nope, my intent was to talk here on this political site about how I find my HOA....I thought I might talk about what a corrupt non functioning Shit Pile it is.

Thought I might be able to strike up on conversation on the subject.
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They are mini gestapos, and I thank God I do not have to deal with them.

I encounter people that do, and I feel so bad for them.
I can go crank a chainsaw right now if I want..no HOA to mess with me. 10 PM at night.
There's an HOA subdivision across the road..but uh, there's nothing they can levy on me.
 
Matt Dillon said:
They are mini gestapos, and I thank God I do not have to deal with them.

I encounter people that do, and I feel so bad for them.
I can go crank a chainsaw right now if I want..no HOA to mess with me. 10 PM at night.
There's an HOA subdivision across the road..but uh, there's nothing they can levy on me.
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In my case it is a criminal operation, it is all about robbing citizens, under structures set up by and monitored by the county leaders and state leaders.

I find it interesting that this was allowed to happen.
 
archives said:
New York, who had as many as a thousand deaths a day in March when the pandemic first appeared, yesterday had five deaths from COVID, seven the day before. Their infection rate is one percent. Florida, who wasn’t hit with the virus back in March, had 124 deaths yesterday, with an infection rate averaging between ten and thirteen percent

Common sense dictates that New York did, and is still doing, the right thing, while Florida the exact opposite, and what is the common denominator, Trump, one State ignored Trump, the other couldn’t act fast enough to make him happy.

As I said, obvious
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Not really. Common sense might lead you to believe that a pandemic will last 18-24 months so declaring anything after 6 might not be the smart play.,
 
archives said:
New York, who had as many as a thousand deaths a day in March when the pandemic first appeared, yesterday had five deaths from COVID, seven the day before. Their infection rate is one percent. Florida, who wasn’t hit with the virus back in March, had 124 deaths yesterday, with an infection rate averaging between ten and thirteen percent

Common sense dictates that New York did, and is still doing, the right thing, while Florida the exact opposite, and what is the common denominator, Trump, one State ignored Trump, the other couldn’t act fast enough to make him happy.

As I said, obvious
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Blame Cuomo for dumping patients into nursing homes! Oh and learn to spell sight correctly, dopey old sod!
 
BartenderElite said:
What % of a population has to have been infected to achieve herd immunity? And how long does immunity have to last?

They re-opened in stages, following CDC guidelines. They emphasized distancing, masks, washing hands, testing & tracing.

All very simple, and proven. And it worked. It's too bad people can't put partisanship aside to acknowledge & follow a good example, for the sake of the greater good.
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No, your assuming it has to do with mitigation because that makes Cuomo look good. Nothing is ‘proven’.

Herd immunity is a thing, it’s actually happens and it won’t be ruled out until there are a sufficient number of accurate seroprevalence studies done in NY.
 
StoneByStone said:
That's nice, but we're not talking about raw numbers. We're talking about the directions of the death rates. Who is handling it better since the virus became widespread in America?
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That’s what you call a carefully crafted metric for gauging success lol.

As mentioned, until we can be sure of what NY’s ‘relative success’ is due to, its too early do declare a winner. The fact is the virus plowed through NY’s population like a knife through hot butter. We weren’t testing at an insane rate like we are now so we have no way of knowing what percentage of the population *have had it* already and/or had it in March/April/May.

The only way we can know that is through a sufficient number of seroprevalence studies and that almost surely won’t happen before the election.

Meanwhile, going forward, we have learned that states and regions can get to ‘post peak’ without the kind of grotesque, draconian, economy smothering and jobs killing measures that were taken earlier in the year.

Election year politics aside, that is what winning looks like.
 
Phantasmal said:
They don’t even know if there is herd immunity, how did New York achieve it? You’re saying 60% of their population was infected?
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wouldnt be surprising. Consider the more we test the more we are finding it's beyond "extremely" infectious

But i think the fact NY isn't operating in close quarters like usual, compared to the SunBelts lifestyle
of being stuck inside A/C all day is the difference now.
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My new mantra is "coping with COVID" -which i do every day with a sister with a depressed immune system
and elderly mother I car egive.
I don't run to the store or hardware store or library or concerts of sports.... well you get it.. Limit your exposure
to what is necessary. Come in and scrub off, and dont wear your clothes and shoes you go out with inside

I just changed my ways to cope. It's not a big deal if you have a plan to do it
 
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