Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest

MAGAts really, really hate it whenever anyone besmirches their Orange Daddy! LOL

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No, if you are going to make ratings like this, at least try and be objective about it. For example, we have had 21 one-term presidents (doesn't include those who died in office during their first term or Hayes who promised not to run for reelection and did that).

None of them rank high on this list. Many rank towards the bottom. Biden was a one-term president. He ran for reelection and probably was the least successful candidate in the history of the US for that.


Let's start with that fact.

Millard Fillmore // 1850-1853​

Millard Fillmore

Sure that isn’t Jimmy Johnson the ex football coach?
 
A "poll" taken of 154 academics on the basis of little more than their unobjective opinion. Read the actual ratings study.


Talk about worthless. That is one worthless ratings system there.
You can cite nearly any study or review you want and the majority will place Trump near the bottom, although I wouldn’t say he was the worse. Biden being 14th is asking a lot, but I wouldn’t put him down in Trump territory, he did achieve the infrastructure and chips legislation thru a heavily partisan Congress

These studies really take decades to accurately portray any Administration, there are always long term effects that don’t become apparent till latter
 
No, if you are going to make ratings like this, at least try and be objective about it. For example, we have had 21 one-term presidents (doesn't include those who died in office during their first term or Hayes who promised not to run for reelection and did that).

None of them rank high on this list. Many rank towards the bottom. Biden was a one-term president. He ran for reelection and probably was the least successful candidate in the history of the US for that.


Let's start with that fact.
I don’t think winning an election really weighs heavily in attesting a President’s accomplishments and contributions to the country
 
You can cite nearly any study or review you want and the majority will place Trump near the bottom, although I wouldn’t say he was the worse. Biden being 14th is asking a lot, but I wouldn’t put him down in Trump territory, he did achieve the infrastructure and chips legislation thru a heavily partisan Congress

These studies really take decades to accurately portray any Administration, there are always long term effects that don’t become apparent till latter
Doesn't mean they're correct. For example, this one has been around a while. On the surface it appears more 'scientific' than the one in this thread.


But if you actually look at the categories and the rankings it is still highly subjective. Many make no sense at all when you consider the background of the president in question.

I would say even with decades of portrayal, these surveys are highly subjective at best largely because they don't try and get some valid quantification of anything relying instead on the opinions of academic historians who often are highly politically biased in their views.
 
Doesn't mean they're correct. For example, this one has been around a while. On the surface it appears more 'scientific' than the one in this thread.


But if you actually look at the categories and the rankings it is still highly subjective. Many make no sense at all when you consider the background of the president in question.

I would say even with decades of portrayal, these surveys are highly subjective at best largely because they don't try and get some valid quantification of anything relying instead on the opinions of academic historians who often are highly politically biased in their views.
History isn’t, nor ever was, a science, nothing can be declared objective, however, the consensus view amongst historians, especially over time, usually portrays a pretty accurate narrative, their research is heavily documented and peer reviewed
 
History isn’t, nor ever was, a science, nothing can be declared objective, however, the consensus view amongst historians, especially over time, usually portrays a pretty accurate narrative, their research is heavily documented and peer reviewed
Much of history can benefit from statistical analysis. This is particularly true when comparing things like the quality of various rulers. It isn't just a subjective narrative. I could care less if their research is heavily documented and especially peer reviewed. I see the later as nearly worthless and the former as something often padded with bullshit.
 
Much of history can benefit from statistical analysis. This is particularly true when comparing things like the quality of various rulers. It isn't just a subjective narrative. I could care less if their research is heavily documented and especially peer reviewed. I see the later as nearly worthless and the former as something often padded with bullshit.
Benefit, some, but even the statistical analysis, what statistics to analyze, has to be interpreted, as I said, History is not a Science just as Economics, Psychology, Political Science, Anthropology, and an array of other fields where those fields are applied are not Sciences

And if you are looking for an accurate interpretation those experienced in the field, who employ documentation and peer review to support their work, are the best option. Otherwise one is left with the Trump version of history with tidbits as Canada burning down DC, Andrew Jackson should have swung a deal to end the Cicil War, that Fredrick Douglas was doing a great job, not knowing what rhe Reconstruction Era was, etc
 
MAGAts really, really hate it whenever anyone besmirches their Orange Daddy! LOL

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At first glance, I didn't like this post.
I thought is was crediting Pigshit as being the MAMBO King.
As a former Cha Cha King, I never regarded him as a colleague.
 
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