What happens if Biden gets his $15 minimum wage passed?

Well, it would appear that according to your map human misery in the US would be approximately cut in half with a doubling of menial wages.

Can you show evidence for your claim? What tool to measure misery will you be using? MW? How will midday be cut if businesses are hiring fewer people? How will misery be cut in half if the increased labor costs will be passed onto consumers?
 
Here is what idiots like you don't understand: THE ECONOMY WILL BOOM! THE MORE MONEY PEOPLE MAKE THE MORE THEY SPEND.

When all you can do is offer some minimum wage that has not kept up with the cost of living with no increase in over 28 years- WHILE EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD EXCEPT THE PRICE OF LABOR- HAS QUADRUPLED ALL YOU ARE DOING IS FOSTERING POVERTY!

IF YOU CAN'T OFFER UP A GOOD WAGE THEN YOU SHOULD GO BANKRUPT AND GET OUT OF THE WAY FOR THOSE WILLING TO PAY A WAGE THAT IS FAIR and competitive.

The ONE Great thing a minimum wage prevents is the mentality- of "I'd pay you even less- If I only could"!

And let me tell you what- when the minimum goes up- the entire pay scale re-adjusts upwards and everyone gets something out of it.

AND THERE IS NOT A PERSON HERE THAT IS AGAINST MAKING MORE MONEY- SO YOU ARE GOING TO FIND YOURSELF ON THE LOSING SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT AS THE VOCAL AND VOTING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WILL VOTE TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE.

THIS IS HOW IT IS DONE WHEN THE VOCAL MAJORITY AND THE VOTING MAJORITY WIN ELECTIONS- THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT FOR A CHANGE!

Exactly. The only thing that grows an economy is demand...and if you increase demand among those at the bottom, it will lead to increased revenue overall, and higher profits.
 
Nothing at first, because it's taking a couple years to get there.




Well, since you have exactly ZERO education in economics, and you willfully ignore the increase to the minimum wage in Seattle (and other places) and the subsequent good fortune from that, I expect this prediction to fall by the wayside, and you to eventually distance yourself from it.

Every single prediction Conservatives have ever made about the MW have been wrong.

These are the same Conservatives who said tax cuts would increase economic growth.

Do you have examples of the "good fortune" that follows from an increased MW in Seattle?
 
Some of the obvious things this would do:

In states below a $15 minimum (all of them right now) increasing wages means a hit on profitability. In the worst cases, going from $7.50 an hour to $15 means that each employee will cost you $300 more per week in wages and added to that higher payouts for unemployment insurance, employer part social security, employer part taxes, etc., meaning roughly $500 per employee. Let's say your business has 10 employees at $7.50 an hour. That's about $5000 a week you have to cough up to pay them and satiate the government. For a small business, that could be door closing. For a large company with thousands of workers it's going to be unaffordable.

It could encourage fewer to pursue education. After all, if you can get $15 out the gate with nothing but high school, why spend to go to college? Working becomes more attractive than getting an education to get a better job.

It will encourage businesses to automate big time.

Then there's the trickle up effect. If the line workers are getting $15 an hour now instead of say $7.50 and the manager was making $15 an hour, how much do you have to raise the manager's wage? It's not likely he'll want to get paid the same as the line workers...

For some companies, off shoring will become attractive.

The cost of goods and services will go up.

Future raises will be fewer and further between. A big mandatory raise like that certainly result in companies withholding raises in pay for whatever, simply because they will see the mandatory raise they already have to pay as sufficient.

Over time, things like a smaller wage gap, etc., will disappear as the market corrects itself to the new norm.
 
Do you have examples of the "good fortune" that follows from an increased MW in Seattle?

That depends entirely on you...is this a good faith request, or a bad faith one?

In other words, before I do this work, are you going to accept it or are you going to sealion under this new sock of yours?
 
Well if it's a picture someone made on twitter, it must be true!

check it out, if you do not believe it...goon.

The Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development developed a list of each country's minimum wages. The ten countries with the highest minimum wages (in USD) are:

Luxembourg ($13.78)
Australia ($12.14)
France ($11.66)
New Zealand ($11.20)
Germany ($10.87)
Netherlands ($10.44)
Belgium ($10.38)
United Kingdom ($10.34)
Ireland ($9.62)
Canada ($9.52)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/minimum-wage-by-country

here is a comparison of big mac costs around the world-

https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/
 
We hear the same lamentations every time there is talk of raising the minimum wage.





really?



so you think now is a good time to raise minimum wage when we don't even let most stores open yet demand they pay thier employees, taxes, mortgages?


you think they can afford this?


I bet they halve the employees and double thier workload.
 
check it out, if you do not believe it...goon.

The Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development developed a list of each country's minimum wages. The ten countries with the highest minimum wages (in USD) are:

Luxembourg ($13.78)
Australia ($12.14)
France ($11.66)
New Zealand ($11.20)
Germany ($10.87)
Netherlands ($10.44)
Belgium ($10.38)
United Kingdom ($10.34)
Ireland ($9.62)
Canada ($9.52)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/minimum-wage-by-country

here is a comparison of big mac costs around the world-

https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/





I literally showed you you gave the value meal prices for the burger in the US price. you were caught with a lying meme. I can't help they see your gullible ass from a mile away.



Is this before taxes? of course it is.
 
So, what happens if Biden gets the minimum wage to $15 an hour?

Here's were the minimum wage is right now:

https://images.markets.businessinsi...14275e72-1200/state-2019-minimum-wage-map.png

In many states that more than doubles it overnight. Given the current state of business closures for Chinese Disease, will they just decide to close for good in those states? Will employers be able to take that big a wage hit? Will the states with larger portions of the population at minimum wage take a bigger hit?

https://i.insider.com/57211ba052bcd066018bf6b8?width=1200

How will this affect workers making $15 an hour or more?

My prediction is it is one of many blows that the economy will take causing recovery to grind to a halt... Will Biden blame Trump for that?

My guess is inflation, higher unemployment, more automation.
 
Almost nothing would happen. Even now folks are hired above minimum pretty much everywhere. The reality is, minimum wage is normally only really necessary during a recession, not needed at the beginning of a boom like we'll have when folks really begin to reopen now that we have a new naked emperor...
 
That depends entirely on you...is this a good faith request, or a bad faith one?

In other words, before I do this work, are you going to accept it or are you going to sealion under this new sock of yours?

What new sock name?

If you don't want to provide it don't provide it. No skin off my nose.
 
I literally showed you you gave the value meal prices for the burger in the US price. you were caught with a lying meme. I can't help they see your gullible ass from a mile away.



Is this before taxes? of course it is.

good god, you are a stupid piece of shit. can't even accept the facts even as they are slapping your right across your huge gaping piehole.
 
Almost nothing would happen. Even now folks are hired above minimum pretty much everywhere. The reality is, minimum wage is normally only really necessary during a recession, not needed at the beginning of a boom like we'll have when folks really begin to reopen now that we have a new naked emperor...
Lol, yes, reopening will happen, because we will finally have an administration that knows how to handle a natural disaster.
 
In states below a $15 minimum (all of them right now) increasing wages means a hit on profitability. In the worst cases, going from $7.50 an hour to $15 means that each employee will cost you $300 more per week in wages and added to that higher payouts for unemployment insurance, employer part social security, employer part taxes, etc., meaning roughly $500 per employee. Let's say your business has 10 employees at $7.50 an hour. That's about $5000 a week you have to cough up to pay them and satiate the government. For a small business, that could be door closing. For a large company with thousands of workers it's going to be unaffordable.

The thing you are deliberately or inadvertently forgetting about all this, is that the people at the lower end of the income spectrum are also the ones most likely to spend money in the economy, thus creating demand.

Because, as I'm sure an amateur economist like you knows, an economy can only grow by demand.

So how does one increase demand? Simple...pay people more money to spend. We know that stimulus is most effective when it's directed at the bottom, rather than the top. So by lifting the minimum wage to $15/hr, we end up SAVING money on welfare programs that are income-determinant.

So the choice really boils down to this: Do you want to spend less or more on social welfare programs? Because a higher minimum wage means you spend LESS on things like SNAP, Housing Assistance, etc.


It could encourage fewer to pursue education.

Not if Public Colleges are free.


It will encourage businesses to automate big time.

They already are automating and have already done that. Where have you been the last 30 years?????


Then there's the trickle up effect. If the line workers are getting $15 an hour now instead of say $7.50 and the manager was making $15 an hour, how much do you have to raise the manager's wage?

ZERO. You don't have to raise it at all.


For some companies, off shoring will become attractive.

You mean those who haven't already done this? Like who?


The cost of goods and services will go up.

Nominally, maybe. Incrementally, perhaps. But drastically? No.


Future raises will be fewer and further between.

Most workers don't get raises now.


A big mandatory raise like that certainly result in companies withholding raises in pay for whatever

Why would they do that if their revenues are also increasing thanks to more people having more money to spend?


Over time, things like a smaller wage gap, etc., will disappear as the market corrects itself to the new norm.

Do you...do you think the wage gap is equitable now??????
 
check it out, if you do not believe it...goon.

The Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development developed a list of each country's minimum wages. The ten countries with the highest minimum wages (in USD) are:

Luxembourg ($13.78)
Australia ($12.14)
France ($11.66)
New Zealand ($11.20)
Germany ($10.87)
Netherlands ($10.44)
Belgium ($10.38)
United Kingdom ($10.34)
Ireland ($9.62)
Canada ($9.52)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/minimum-wage-by-country

here is a comparison of big mac costs around the world-

https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/

What do you think a higher MW does to the price of a big mac?
 
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