Calif bill~to force trump to release tax records to get on statewide 2020 ballot

Teflon Don said:
This is so stupid and wouldn’t survive a court challenge.
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How so?


Teflon Don said:
eftists are such reactionaries and never think things through
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You're the ones who cut taxes in December 2017 only to see a record monthly budget deficit appear.


They are so fucking child like. I have more success reasoning with a five year old with an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex than reasoning with a retarded liberal
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Conservatives have expanded the deficit by 25% in the last year.
 
bhaktajan said:
In 2013, the United States Internal Revenue Service (IRS) revealed that it had selected political groups applying for tax-exempt status for intensive scrutiny based on their names or political themes. This led to wide condemnation of the agency and triggered several investigations, including a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) criminal probe ordered by United States Attorney General Eric Holder.
Initial reports described the selections as nearly exclusively of conservative groups with terms such as "Tea Party" in their names. According to Republican lawmakers, liberal-leaning groups and the Occupy movement had also triggered additional scrutiny, but at a lower rate than conservative groups.

The Republican majority on the House Oversight Committee issued a report, which concluded that although some liberal groups were selected for additional review, the scrutiny that these groups received did not amount to targeting when compared to the greater scrutiny received by conservative groups. The report was criticized by the committee's Democratic minority, which said that the report ignored evidence that the IRS used keywords to identify both liberal and conservative groups.

In January 2014, James Comey, who at the time was the FBI director, told Fox News that its investigation had found no evidence so far warranting the filing of federal criminal charges in connection with the controversy, as it had not found any evidence of "enemy hunting", and that the investigation continued.

On October 23, 2015, the Justice Department declared that no criminal charges would be filed. On September 8, 2017, the Trump Justice Department declined to reopen the criminal investigation into Lois Lerner, a central figure in the controversy.[1]

In late September 2017, an exhaustive report by the Treasury Department's inspector general found that from 2004 to 2013, the IRS used both conservative and liberal keywords to choose targets for further scrutiny.[2][3]

In October 2017, the Trump Administration agreed to settle a lawsuit filed on behalf of more than four hundred conservative nonprofit groups who claimed that they had been discriminated against by the Internal Revenue Service for an undisclosed amount described by plaintiffs' counsel as "very substantial." The Trump Administration also agreed to settle a second lawsuit brought by forty-one conservative organizations with an apology and an admission that subjecting them to "heightened scrutiny and inordinate delays" was wrongful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy


If Trump was an IRS cheat ...why would the IRS keep is secret?
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Citizens United created a glut of phony non profits applying for improper tax exempt status. I would certainly start with any group with the name 'Tea Party' too. You would first have to understand the parameters of these C3/C4 groups if you really wanted to have this discussion, though. You don't.
 
Bobb said:
Amendment 4 should also protect Trump from being forced to release his tax returns. No tax returns without probable cause. No fishing, f-ggots.
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Why? He's not on trial. How does the Fourth Amendment apply in this case?


Bobb said:
Who else is excited about the prospect of a hot Civil War breaking out, due to the corruption and tyranny of the Democrat party?
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Sounds like a threat. Also, you didn't win the last Civil War, so what makes you think you'll win this one?
 
bhaktajan said:
In 2013, the United States Internal Revenue Service (IRS) revealed that it had selected political groups applying for tax-exempt status for intensive scrutiny based on their names or political themes
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Liberal and pro-marijuana groups were also targeted.

Also, none of the Conservative groups lost their tax exempt status.

So this is much ado about nothing.
 
Trump has not been under audit. He lied. Of course, 2018 was not under audit. He could have released it immediately. Trump promised to release his taxes, but only rightys believed him. Can you guys really convince yourselves the audit was the problem.?Nixon was under audit and released his. Obviosly 2018 was not. Trump is lying and you guys are buying.
 
Althea said:
I don't have a problem with every politician exposing all of their investments. That's not the topic. POTUS can affect change overnight with the use of a pen. No individual member of Congress can. It's clear that every foreign policy decision trump supports, directly affects his bottom line.

Imagine if Obama tried that?
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Nice attempt at spin you lying cocksucker. They already have to have financial disclosures. If you were consistent, you would demand that EVERY politician at a national level disclose their tax returns. But, you don't.

This is nothing but a political game to you. You don't really believe anything you are saying. If you were really principled about the issue, you would be demanding more than just Trump's taxes. And for that reason I hope you never get to see them. They are none of your business. Go fuck yourself
 
LV426 said:
How so?




You're the ones who cut taxes in December 2017 only to see a record monthly budget deficit appear.




Conservatives have expanded the deficit by 25% in the last year.
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It won't survive a court challenge because it would create an unnecessary burden to run for office. And where would it stop? You won't see Trump's taxes. You have not earned that right. So go fuck yourself
 
LV426 said:
Liberal and pro-marijuana groups were also targeted.

Also, none of the Conservative groups lost their tax exempt status.

So this is much ado about nothing.
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Right. They weren't stopped from conducting whatever business it was that they wanted, notwithstanding the lack of social welfare promotion.

It's pretty easy not to pay taxes. Just spend all that you take in.
 
Teflon Don said:
It won't survive a court challenge because it would create an unnecessary burden to run for office. And where would it stop? You won't see Trump's taxes. You have not earned that right. So go fuck yourself
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Unnecessary burden? You do realize every candidate has been doing it for a long time? Why is trump the only one with such a 'burden'?
 
Teflon Don said:
Nice attempt at spin you lying cocksucker. They already have to have financial disclosures. If you were consistent, you would demand that EVERY politician at a national level disclose their tax returns. But, you don't.

This is nothing but a political game to you. You don't really believe anything you are saying. If you were really principled about the issue, you would be demanding more than just Trump's taxes. And for that reason I hope you never get to see them. They are none of your business. Go fuck yourself
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I don't need to see his taxes. I need to see his creditors. I don't care that he doesn't pay taxes. I care that he's been laundering Putin's money for years, and quite likely the Saudi Royal Family as well.

All of which is fine, so long as it doesn't affect our foreign policy.

It does indeed taint his every foreign policy decision.
 
Althea said:
I don't need to see his taxes. I need to see his creditors. I don't care that he doesn't pay taxes. I care that he's been laundering Putin's money for years, and quite likely the Saudi Royal Family as well.

All of which is fine, so long as it doesn't affect our foreign policy.

It does indeed taint his every foreign policy decision.
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:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
 
Althea said:
I don't need to see his taxes. I need to see his creditors. I don't care that he doesn't pay taxes. I care that he's been laundering Putin's money for years, and quite likely the Saudi Royal Family as well.

All of which is fine, so long as it doesn't affect our foreign policy.

It does indeed taint his every foreign policy decision.
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You have been duped
 
Every other presidential candidate had no trouble showing their taxes. It is an opportunity to prove to the people that you do not have foreign financial entanglements and will put Americans first. It is not asking too much. Eveyone running for prez that last half a century showed theirs. Only one refused. Just one. Must be a reason Trump refused. Can you find a good reason he didn't?
 
Bill said:
Since there is almost no way in hell trumpf is gonna be able to compete in calif, what's the point?? Just not having him on the ballot??




Several California lawmakers are proposing legislation that would require President Donald Trump and other presidential candidates to release their tax returns as a precondition for getting on the ballot.

A hearing is scheduled next Tuesday by the state Senate Judiciary Committee to discuss and vote on the measure.

State Senate Bill 27, dubbed the Presidential Tax Transparency and Accountability Act, represents the second time in three years that California has sought to pass such a law.

Back in 2017, then-Gov. Jerry Brown vetoed a similar measure and cited concerns it might be unconstitutional​

LOS ANGELES – Several California Democratic lawmakers are proposing legislation that would require President Donald Trump and other presidential candidates to release their tax returns as a precondition for getting on the statewide ballot.

A hearing is scheduled April 2 in the state Senate Judiciary Committee to discuss and vote on the measure. State Senate Bill 27, dubbed the Presidential Tax Transparency and Accountability Act, represents the second time in three years that California has sought to pass such a law.

"President Trump's refusal to release his income tax returns has broken a time-honored, bipartisan tradition which has weakened our democracy and his jaw dropping business conflicts have now put the security of our nation at risk" said state Sen. Mike McGuire, D-Eureka, a cosponsor of the bill.

A similar measure, Senate Bill 149, passed the state legislature in 2017 but was vetoed by then-Gov. Jerry Brown, a Democrat who raised concerns it might be unconstitutional. Also, Brown at the time warned the legislation "sets a 'slippery slope' precedent."

Gov. Gavin Newsom, also a Democrat, hasn't indicated whether he will support the new bill if it passes the state Legislature. The Democrats currently have a two-thirds supermajority in both houses of the California Legislature, so they have the power to potentially overrule a governor's veto.

"As is the case with all proposed legislation, should this bill reach the governor's desk it would be evaluated on its own merits," said Brian Ferguson, a spokesman for Newsom.

California's proposed bill would require presidential candidates to release the last five years of their tax returns to appear on the ballot in the nation's most populous state. The Golden State's presidential primary was moved up to March 3, 2020, or Super Tuesday, following a state law passed in 2017.

SB 27 contains an urgency clause that allows the legislation to take effect immediately prior to the December 2019 filing deadline for the 2020 presidential candidates. The measure cleared its first hurdle March 19 in a state Senate elections committee, receiving a 3-to-1 vote.

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Correct me if I am wrong.....but California always goes blue, just like in 2016. How is changing something in a state that is already carrying the water bucket for communism going to alter the Electoral College vote? :dunno: Trump could in theory get -0- votes and it will not ad one EC vote to the final count. WINNER TAKE ALL. Ain't logic a terrible thing? Go ahead.....hold your breath until you turn....err....BLUER.

Its like the old joke. When you choke a smurf…..what color does he/she turn? I'd wager that Trump could turn you even bluer......when he cuts off all federal aid to Mexifornia.

Do you propagandists have a real plan to win in 2020? Or are you simply going to continue to throw tantrums until 2020?
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
some lib'rul would claim there was.......
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The IRS line that liberals enjoy most is the line that taxes OPM (other peoples money....not theirs). Thus the grinding and gnashing of teeth in blue states where they cannot deduct their outrageous state taxes from their federal return. In essence the rest of the nation is paying for states like California and NY's welfare vote buying tax ponzi schemes. If you are going to tax your people to hell and back.....you should be forced to suffer the consequences of that failed ideology. According to the US Constitution all taxes and levies should be and are mandated to be "UNIFROM" in nature....in reality, the left progressive wealth redistribution tax system is unconstitutional as hell (or it was until the passage of the 16th amendment). The 16th amendment grants the government to tax up to 100% of the peoples private wealth and property.

Welcome to the world of left wing progress....its back to taxation without representation. That's mighty PROGRESSIVE.
 
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