I Miss Martin Luther King

I am a northerner that moved to Louisiana about 3 years ago. I was sitting at the bar at a local restaurant and got to talking to a black woman sitting next to me and she told me that her father always warned her to be careful of the old white guys. This is why I say when the boomers are gone a lot of races and will be gone. There are still younger racists so it won't be all gone. Each passing generation things get better and better.

About 7 years ago my son and I were in Natchez on a little road trip and we were walking down the sidewalk and a black woman was walking towards us she was very old and very gnarled. We went to single file to allow her room to pass on the sidewalk but even if that she stepped out into the gutter to walk around us. We went to a bar for dinner down the street and there was three people behind the bar two whites and a black, young people. I was watching how they interrelated amongst the three of them and it was all is equals there was no subservience by the black and there was no attitude from the whites they all work together as a team equally. I am hopeful for the future but it will take some generations yet.
 
Hello Sirthinksalot,

Sirthinksalot said:
If I could make 2 comments...
1) MLK was assassinated by a DEMOCRAT
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True, and thanks for bringing that up. It caused me to do some research on the subject. The most prominent thing to be noted is that 50 years ago in 1968, Democrats held majorities in the south. Southern Democrats were also strong in the KKK. Jame Earl Ray was a strong racist who favored segregation. As such, he volunteered to work on George Wallace's failed presidential campaign.

Sirthinksalot said:
2) Lots of people like to speak for the deceased MLK, and they attribute issues to him that he never embraced.

He was a great advocate for racial equality, but he never asked for race based preferential treatment.
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MLK fought the racial battles of the time through non-violence. He was so busy fighting racism he didn't spend as much time envisioning what specific laws might help reverse the terrible repercussions of it. MLK was not a legislator and had no interest in holding elected public office.
 
evince said:
to a racist equal looks like inequality

you could never speak for MLK
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I am not a racist and have never tried to speak for MLK. That's something liberals do, and they try to attribute modern liberalism to the man, despite there being no evidence that he would have supported it.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Sirthinksalot,



True, and thanks for bringing that up. It caused me to do some research on the subject. The most prominent thing to be noted is that 50 years ago in 1968, Democrats held majorities in the south. Southern Democrats were also strong in the KKK. Jame Earl Ray was a strong racist who favored segregation. As such, he volunteered to work on George Wallace's failed presidential campaign.



MLK fought the racial battles of the time through non-violence. He was so busy fighting racism he didn't spend as much time envisioning what specific laws might help reverse the terrible repercussions of it. MLK was not a legislator and had no interest in holding elected public office.
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Thanks for the response Politalker. I think something that is glossed over about MLK is that he was a preacher, and as such had some values that would align more with modern conservatism than modern liberalism.
 
PoliTalker said:
Today is the anniversary of MLK's death.

It was a sad day for the United States of America.

The assassination was a set-back for race relations in America, which are still strained to this day.

I had hope that President Obama, as the first black president, would use his bully pulpit to further the work of MLK, but sadly he was not interested in doing so, and let the monumental opportunity pass.

Worse yet, his election energized hate groups across the nation and reignited racial animosity.

How will the USA ever overcome racial tensions and discrimination?

Shall we overcome?
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How can I miss someone who died when my dad was a child?
 
Sirthinksalot said:
I am not a racist and have never tried to speak for MLK. That's something liberals do, and they try to attribute modern liberalism to the man, despite there being no evidence that he would have supported it.
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why are most black Americans Democratic party members then?
 
My first protests were the civil rights marches, They were in many cities across the country. The first time his I have a Dream Speech was given, was in Detroit about a month an half before Washington. I was never a fan of his and did not know why he was treated so much differently than the other speakers . That is because I was never religious and I don't like the reverend cadence that so many preachers learn. I wanted laws changed to make us equal. I did not see how praying would help that. It required work and civil disobedience. It required getting politically involved. Running for office and working for the right politicians was needed too.
 
Hello Sirthinksalot,

Sirthinksalot said:
Thanks for the response Politalker. I think something that is glossed over about MLK is that he was a preacher, and as such had some values that would align more with modern conservatism than modern liberalism.
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They may have aligned with traditional conservatives, but modern conservatism doesn't share those same values.
 
Hello Sirthinksalot,

Sirthinksalot said:
I am not a racist and have never tried to speak for MLK. That's something liberals do, and they try to attribute modern liberalism to the man, despite there being no evidence that he would have supported it.
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It is just such stereotypes as this which will prevent conservatives from holding power.
 
I miss RFK more then any of them, including JFK.. I think RFK would be able to do the healing -
being respected in both the black and white community ( it was RFK that gave the speech the night MLK was killed urging restraint.

Plus he would have gotten us out of Vietnam, unlike the sleezy Nixon
 
Hello evince,

evince said:
why are most black Americans Democratic party members then?
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In the 1960's the preferred party of racists was the Democratic Party, the party of George Wallace. LBJ had been a Texas school teacher who knew that black children were not inferior to white children in their ability to learn. He was selected by JFK in order to deliver the Texas vote, which was needed to beat Richard Nixon in the election. LBJ became president when JFK was assassinated. LBJ probably would not have won the Democratic nomination before he became a sitting President.

After LBJ changed our nation with the New Deal and the Voting Rights Act, racists fled the Democratic party and took up ranks in the Republican Party. This aligned the remainder of the Democratic party with black rights, creating many of the divisions we have today.
 
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noise said:
I miss RFK more then any of them, including JFK.. I think RFK would be able to do the healing -
being respected in both the black and white community ( it was RFK that gave the speech the night MLK was killed urging restraint.

Plus he would have gotten us out of Vietnam, unlike the sleezy Nixon
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bobby


he was who we needed at the time


they took him too
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello evince,



In the 1960's the preferred party of racists was the Democratic Party, the party of George Wallace. LBJ had been a Texas school teacher who knew that black children were not inferior to white children in their ability to learn. He was selected by JFK in order to deliver the Texas vote, which was needed to beat Richard Nixon in the election. LBJ became president when JFK was assassinated. LBJ probably would not have won the Democratic nomination until before he became a sitting President.
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I agree


when the right leaners answer this they say its because black voters dont vote for the same reason white voters vote ....they say blacks vote for stuff.


the entire right will give you this racist answer
 
For some reason LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act. That was a surprise from a Texan like him, but he did it. That gave the Dems a leg up with the black vote. The Dems also moved to supply housing and elevate the min. wage. The repubs do nothing for equality.
 
Nordberg said:
For some reason LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act. That was a surprise from a Texan like him, but he did it. That gave the Dems a leg up with the black vote. The Dems also moved to supply housing and elevate the min. wage. The repubs do nothing for equality.
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he continued the Kennedy plan

he was on the ticket to help save some of the old southern Democratic voters
 
Hello noise,

noise said:
I miss RFK more then any of them, including JFK.. I think RFK would be able to do the healing -
being respected in both the black and white community ( it was RFK that gave the speech the night MLK was killed urging restraint.

Plus he would have gotten us out of Vietnam, unlike the sleezy Nixon
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Heard that!
 
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