This is one seriously depressing election

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He left a lot off the Trump list, but I'm sure he just copied this from someone else and he doesn't, nor do others know all if Trumps scandals because he makes everyone sign a non disclosure agreement.

The media is going to start digging in to Trump's business past, his philandering, his draft dodging, his fraud - basically, all of the stuff that bravs (as you correctly pointed out) cut & pasted from whatever site he got it from.

I can't even say I'm excited about it. This will be the ugliest campaign ever - a true race to the bottom.

 

[CFM]

Why are you isolating "scandals" as the only criteria?

Trump is a con man & a fraud. He stand for nothing but himself. He's rash & emotional, and has less understanding about the nuances of foreign policy than any Presidential candidate I have seen, ever.

I get that you're all in on Trump now, bravs. I could have predicted that when Trump took his first escalator ride. But he's a complete phony, who stands for nothing.

It's kind of hilarious that you put draft-dodging for Clinton, but not for Trump. Double-standard much?

Apparently more people like Trump than your guy Kasich. That's hurts your feelings. I can tell.

 

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I have no idea why you would ask about me being a Raptors fan. Nothing, and I mean nothing, I've said even remotely implies that I am. In fact, I don't watch pro basketball.

For whatever reason? There isn't but one. She was the chosen one. Democrats picked skin color over reproductive organ in 2008. Since what Hillary has was of secondary importance to getting a black President first, since that's been done it only leaves that one characteristic she was born with. Listen to many who support her. They'll say it's because she's a woman

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gIkWPD7LNg

It was a little levity. The Raptors got crushed yesterday. I thought that might be the reason for the disagreeable tone of your response.

That's a fairly sexist remark about Hillary, and I'm not a "sexist police" kind of guy. She's a poor choice, imo - but she certainly has a resume when it comes to applying for POTUS.

What's your excuse for why people are picking Trump? He has no resume, and no real positions on anything. Do his supporters just favor weird hair?

 

[CFM]

You said you haven't chosen a candidate yet CFM. Who's in your top two?

I don't play the top (fill in the number) game. When I pick, the only one that matters is #1. Is that hard to understand?

 

[cawacko]

I don't play the top (fill in the number) game. When I pick, the only one that matters is #1. Is that hard to understand?

You just act Thing who he supported so I'm not sure why you respond like I was attacking you by asking the same question. Clearly you follow politics. What are waiting for to determine whether you will support Trump or not?

 

[Jarod]

Democrats blew it this year, big time. Just about any other candidate would probably beat Trump handily. Hillary is the one political figure on the left who those on the right have a truly vitriolic reaction to.

Once the nomination is done, they always have a truly vitriolic reaction to the candidate. I've seen it every election in my adult life. Dukakis was a weak liberal technocrat. Clinton was a philandering draft dodger. Al Gore was an arrogant robot. John Kerry was an unpatriotic flip flopper. Obama was an African, Muslim, Socialist. (And we were going to wish we had not thrown HRC out, cuz she would have been good) Now Hillary Clinton is an unqualified liar.

 

[CFM]

It was a little levity. The Raptors got crushed yesterday. I thought that might be the reason for the disagreeable tone of your response.

That's a fairly sexist remark about Hillary, and I'm not a "sexist police" kind of guy. She's a poor choice, imo - but she certainly has a resume when it comes to applying for POTUS.

What's your excuse for why people are picking Trump? He has no resume, and no real positions on anything. Do his supporters just favor weird hair?

Several teams got crushed yesterday. The Texas Rangers scored 15 runs on the Angels and the Seattle Mariners scored 13 on the A's.

Still don't know why the Raptors came to mind.

It's something I backed up with a video clip. It's not the only one showing people saying they'll vote Hillary because she's a woman.

If she hadn't been First "Lady", few people would know who she was.

I listen to talk radio. People call in regularly saying why they'll vote for Trump. I have yet to hear one having anything to do with his hair and damn sure haven't heard any say a word about it being because he's male.

 

[CFM]

Once the nomination is done, they always have a truly vitriolic reaction to the candidate. I've seen it every election in my adult life. Dukakis was a weak liberal technocrat. Clinton was a philandering draft dodger. Al Gore was an arrogant robot. John Kerry was an unpatriotic flip flopper. Obama was an African, Muslim, Socialist. (And we were going to wish we had not thrown HRC out, cuz she would have been good) Now Hillary Clinton is an unqualified liar.

All of those about Democrats you named were true. That about Hillary is true.

 

[cawacko]

Once the nomination is done, they always have a truly vitriolic reaction to the candidate. I've seen it every election in my adult life. Dukakis was a weak liberal technocrat. Clinton was a philandering draft dodger. Al Gore was an arrogant robot. John Kerry was an unpatriotic flip flopper. Obama was an African, Muslim, Socialist. (And we were going to wish we had not thrown HRC out, cuz she would have been good) Now Hillary Clinton is an unqualified liar.

I don't know why people on the right act that way. No one on the left ever speaks out negatively against the Republican candidate right?

 

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Once the nomination is done, they always have a truly vitriolic reaction to the candidate. I've seen it every election in my adult life. Dukakis was a weak liberal technocrat. Clinton was a philandering draft dodger. Al Gore was an arrogant robot. John Kerry was an unpatriotic flip flopper. Obama was an African, Muslim, Socialist. (And we were going to wish we had not thrown HRC out, cuz she would have been good) Now Hillary Clinton is an unqualified liar.

This isn't the usual, though. Hillary Clinton really represents something to the right, far beyond the average Democrat.

 

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Several teams got crushed yesterday. The Texas Rangers scored 15 runs on the Angels and the Seattle Mariners scored 13 on the A's.

Still don't know why the Raptors came to mind.

It's something I backed up with a video clip. It's not the only one showing people saying they'll vote Hillary because she's a woman.

If she hadn't been First "Lady", few people would know who she was.

I listen to talk radio. People call in regularly saying why they'll vote for Trump. I have yet to hear one having anything to do with his hair and damn sure haven't heard any say a word about it being because he's male.

It's kind of funny that you think a video of some people saying that is some kind of proof.

 

[Jarod]

I don't know why people on the right act that way. No one on the left ever speaks out negatively against the Republican candidate right?

No it works both ways, my point is that the current hate for HRC is not special to HRC, the only significant difference is that they have believed she would be the nominee for a longer time than usual. Until it became clear she would be the likely nominee, about four years ago, they were buddy buddy with her.

 

[CFM]

You just act Thing who he supported so I'm not sure why you respond like I was attacking you by asking the same question. Clearly you follow politics. What are waiting for to determine whether you will support Trump or not?

I did ask Thing1. He responded. You asked me and I responded. Don't take that I didn't respond the way you wanted me to as I took it as an attack.

To answer your question about why I am waiting, or in other words, why I haven't decided, that's really none of your business. All you need to know is that I haven't. If it will make you feel better, I'll put you on the list of those I'll notify first when I do.

 

[cawacko]

No it works both ways, my point is that the current hate for HRC is not special to HRC, the only significant difference is that they have believed she would be the nominee for a longer time than usual. Until it became clear she would be the likely nominee, about four years ago, they were buddy buddy with her.

People on the right were buddy buddy with Hillary?

 

[CFM]

It's kind of funny that you think a video of some people saying that is some kind of proof.

Proof is defined as evidence establishing a fact or the truth of a statement. I stated people are supporting Hillary because she's a woman. I provided video evidence of it. That means what I provided is called proof. It's not just some kind of proof, it's proof.

It's sad that you don't consider evidence supporting what I claimed as proof.

 

[anatta]

There's nazis in the bathroom just below the stairs.
Always something happening but no one ever cares

Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Strange days indeed
most peculiar. Mama.

 

[cawacko]

No it works both ways, my point is that the current hate for HRC is not special to HRC, the only significant difference is that they have believed she would be the nominee for a longer time than usual. Until it became clear she would be the likely nominee, about four years ago, they were buddy buddy with her.

Remember for months you kept posting Trump is a liberal and Hillary is a conservative and there were even ways you would consider backing Trump? I do. And now that he's the nominee you've gone into straight partisan attack mode and stopped your previous trolling.

 

[cawacko]

I did ask Thing1. He responded. You asked me and I responded. Don't take that I didn't respond the way you wanted me to as I took it as an attack.

To answer your question about why I am waiting, or in other words, why I haven't decided, that's really none of your business. All you need to know is that I haven't. If it will make you feel better, I'll put you on the list of those I'll notify first when I do.

Hey man, you can vote for whoever the hell you want. I don't care. It's just funny on a political board where you express strong right wing opinions you can't state why you're debating whether to vote for Trump or not.

 

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I mean, I can tell that even the "defend party at all costs" partisans are mailing it in this time.

Such a drag. I know that there ARE people who are genuinely enthusiastic about Trump & the same for Hillary, but I genuinely don't understand either group. I mean, I even understood enthusiasm for GW, because as lame as he was, he at least had a simple & consistent conservative message.

But these are completely uncharted waters. Two incredibly flawed, dishonest candidates, both of whom will basically say anything to get elected. If you're gung ho about either, you really need to take a look at the kind of bar you're setting. No one should be excited about this election.

We don't live in a democracy. We live in an oligarchy. For the last 20 years we will have been ruled essentially by 2 families and obama (if clinton wins). That's gross.

Dynasties are beginning to form. It wont be long now until our new political class are modern day lords of the land.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy

A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely, that it no longer exists.

Asking "[w]ho really rules?" researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argues that over the past few decades America's political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.
Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.

Ever wonder why former romney backers are supporting hillary?

if [hilary] were a Republican (in what would then have been an 18-candidate Republican field for 2016), she would have been the 7th-from-the-top recipient of Romney-donor money.



Therefore, to Republican donors, Hillary Clinton is a more attractive prospect for the U.S. Presidency than was 64% of the then-current 17-member Republican field of candidates.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clinton-backed-major-republican-donors.html

It's all about who will fight the right wars to pad our elites pockets.

There is no hope for this nation. You cannot corral 300 million americans. This is why having a strong national government was always a danger. You restirct yourself to only a few points contract where failure brings the whole thing down. We've been compromised and now it's too late.

Most people are morons, are stupid - they are proles. They will never rise up. Proles and animals are free.

The world doesn't owe you shit. We can espouse whatever idealistic platitudes we want, but at the end of the day, billionaires can raise armies.

My suggestion: look out for number 1. If you have the opportunity to cheat your way into the system, you should do it. Hide as much of your money as you can. Try to be minimally effected from the political and cultural sphere as possible.

 

[CFM]

Hey man, you can vote for whoever the hell you want. I don't care. It's just funny on a political board where you express strong right wing opinions you can't state why you're debating whether to vote for Trump or not.

Apparently you do care since you seem overly concerned why I don't make a determination on a time scale that suits you. That's what you don't seem to get. I don't need to state why I haven't decided. The ONLY thing you need to know is that I haven't determined it yet.