This is one seriously depressing election

[Jarod]

Remember for months you kept posting Trump is a liberal and Hillary is a conservative and there were even ways you would consider backing Trump? I do. And now that he's the nominee you've gone into straight partisan attack mode and stopped your previous trolling.

Liar!

I never posted that Trump was a Liberal... I might have said he has some liberal ideas, but never called him a Liberal, he is not a liberal he is a populist. I have said that HRC is very conservative, and she is for a Democrat. She will be the most Conservative Democratic nominee since her husband. There were ways I could back Trump, and politically there are some things I like about him, but my problem with Dangerous Donald is his personality. He is not consistent, he swings wildly with the truth and with what he says he is going to do, he is erratic... I think he is Dangerous. I don't think he has the mental health to be president, I don't think he has mental stability.

 

[signalmankenneth]

 

[tsuke]

I mean, I can tell that even the "defend party at all costs" partisans are mailing it in this time.

Such a drag. I know that there ARE people who are genuinely enthusiastic about Trump & the same for Hillary, but I genuinely don't understand either group. I mean, I even understood enthusiasm for GW, because as lame as he was, he at least had a simple & consistent conservative message.

But these are completely uncharted waters. Two incredibly flawed, dishonest candidates, both of whom will basically say anything to get elected. If you're gung ho about either, you really need to take a look at the kind of bar you're setting. No one should be excited about this election.

this election is the best ever

Take away the personalities for a while and just look at the general direction of the ideas.

Look at the policies of obama vs romney. Both for foreign intervention. Both for free trade both for some sort of amnesty. Etc etc. Basically the 2 parties got together beforehand WITHOUT THE PEOPLE and said ok we are going west. Then they ask Americans would you like to go west 5 degrees to the left or 5 degrees to the right? That is the only choice you are presented with.

Look at the policies of Trump vs Clinton. one is for significantly less intervention. One is willing to not write off Russia as a perpetual enemy. One is for free trade one is not. One is for amnesty one is not. For the first time ever YOU GET TO CHOOSE whether we are going east, west, north , or south. This may be the first time this choice has been given ever.

I find it extremely sad that Americans like you are so used to parties deciding the direction for them that they reject the very first true choice they have been given in maybe their lifetime.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

this election is the best ever

Take away the personalities for a while and just look at the general direction of the ideas.

Look at the policies of obama vs romney. Both for foreign intervention. Both for free trade both for some sort of amnesty. Etc etc. Basically the 2 parties got together beforehand WITHOUT THE PEOPLE and said ok we are going west. Then they ask Americans would you like to go west 5 degrees to the left or 5 degrees to the right? That is the only choice you are presented with.

Look at the policies of Trump vs Clinton. one is for significantly less intervention. One is willing to not write off Russia as a perpetual enemy. One is for free trade one is not. One is for amnesty one is not. For the first time ever YOU GET TO CHOOSE whether we are going east, west, north , or south. This may be the first time this choice has been given ever.

I find it extremely sad that Americans like you are so used to parties deciding the direction for them that they reject the very first true choice they have been given in maybe their lifetime.

Do you know what I find extremely sad?

That hopelessly gullible people like you are completely sucked in by one of the biggest ruses from one of the most talented con men of all time.

That's what I find sad. Trump could literally sell you the proverbial Brooklyn Bridge. Wise up.

 

[NOVA]

Why are you isolating "scandals" as the only criteria?

Trump is a con man & a fraud. He stand for nothing but himself. He's rash & emotional, and has less understanding about the nuances of foreign policy than any Presidential candidate I have seen, ever.

I get that you're all in on Trump now, bravs. I could have predicted that when Trump took his first escalator ride. But he's a complete phony, who stands for nothing.

It's kind of hilarious that you put draft-dodging for Clinton, but not for Trump. Double-standard much?

A personal opinion and lame conjecture mean nothing....but you're certainly entitled to yours.

Lame list for the Clintons, btw. A lot of "reaches." If you were objective, you could come up w/ the same thing for Trump & his pretty questionable past.

It may be a lame list to you, but is THE LIST of noteworthy scandals.....because nothing can be proven criminally doesn't mean there was nothing to them....

He left a lot off the Trump list, but I'm sure he just copied this from someone else and he doesn't, nor do others know all if Trumps scandals because he makes everyone sign a non disclosure agreement.

I'll leave it up to you and Rana to give us some facts about Trumps past, I haven't heard anything thats earth shattering or noteworthy....and like I wasn't interested in Clinton's love life
I ain't much interested in Trumps either.

The media is going to start digging in to Trump's business past, his philandering, his draft dodging, his fraud - basically, all of the stuff that bravs (as you correctly pointed out) cut & pasted from whatever site he got it from.

I can't even say I'm excited about it. This will be the ugliest campaign ever - a true race to the bottom.

Ahh yes, the media is already on the job, I heard it said that some left wings newspapers and tv news networks have quite a large crew working on it.....I only hope whatever they
dig up comes out soon so we have time to get rebuttals or responses to whatever they find....(or make up)

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

LOL @ bravs. Bravs - I have no doubt whatsoever that you are an extension of Trump's "quick response" team to all accusations and negative stories. You're unbelievably perfect for that role.

 

[Phantasmal]

LOL @ bravs. Bravs - I have no doubt whatsoever that you are an extension of Trump's "quick response" team to all accusations and negative stories. You're unbelievably perfect for that role.

Although his crush George W doesn't support Trump. George H will support Hillary is my bet.

 

[NOVA]

It was a little levity. The Raptors got crushed yesterday. I thought that might be the reason for the disagreeable tone of your response.

That's a fairly sexist remark about Hillary, and I'm not a "sexist police" kind of guy. She's a poor choice, imo - but she certainly has a resume when it comes to applying for POTUS.

What's your excuse for why people are picking Trump? He has no resume, and no real positions on anything. Do his supporters just favor weird hair?

Both those reasons are absolutely true and the vast majority believe them...
She was the chosen one with a majority of delegates even before the primary season with into full bloom...contenders thought, why bother.

and many ARE voting for her simply because shes a women.....
and those are really undeniable facts.....

 

[anatta]

this election is the best ever

Take away the personalities for a while and just look at the general direction of the ideas.

Look at the policies of obama vs romney. Both for foreign intervention. Both for free trade both for some sort of amnesty. Etc etc. Basically the 2 parties got together beforehand WITHOUT THE PEOPLE and said ok we are going west. Then they ask Americans would you like to go west 5 degrees to the left or 5 degrees to the right? That is the only choice you are presented with.

Look at the policies of Trump vs Clinton. one is for significantly less intervention. One is willing to not write off Russia as a perpetual enemy. One is for free trade one is not. One is for amnesty one is not. For the first time ever YOU GET TO CHOOSE whether we are going east, west, north , or south. This may be the first time this choice has been given ever.

I find it extremely sad that Americans like you are so used to parties deciding the direction for them that they reject the very first true choice they have been given in maybe their lifetime.

There is definitely room for both Russia and the west to co-exist and thrive..
Russia has to be respected as a world power, and it's spheres of influence recognized.
But it also has to learn that NATO will do whatever is needed -despite it's annexation of Crimea and eastern Ukraine..

Putin has pushed it to the limits,
but there can still be an understanding that Russia need not become a tsarist power to be a great world power.

Trump would be a 'reset' - but Trump has to learn he's going up against a world leader that will gambit everything to win.

 

[NOVA]

Once the nomination is done, they always have a truly vitriolic reaction to the candidate. I've seen it every election in my adult life. Dukakis was a weak liberal technocrat. Clinton was a philandering draft dodger. Al Gore was an arrogant robot. John Kerry was an unpatriotic flip flopper. Obama was an African, Muslim, Socialist. (And we were going to wish we had not thrown HRC out, cuz she would have been good) Now Hillary Clinton is an unqualified liar.

You call those 'reactions' ?

Dukakis was weak liberal and made a fool of himself with that stupid helmet and tank photo.

Clinton was a draft dodger and womanizer but won anyhow with a background of scandals as governor.

John Kerry was an unpatriotic flip flopper....I would add liar to that and still question his service career....4 months in Vietnam...if he there for a couple of years he'd have more medals
than Audie Murphy at the rate he was racking them up......

Al Gore an arrogant robot?....thats just not nice, .... arrogant maybe and he just don't have that tv persona the liberals love.

Obama won because he was African American....despite his arrogance and Muslim father....he may lean pretty far left, but labeling him socialist is unfair.

Hillary IS an unqualified liar....the email scandal and Benghazi screw up prove that, plus a questionable past about her ethics....

 

[NOVA]

Do you know what I find extremely sad?

That hopelessly gullible people like you are completely sucked in by one of the biggest ruses from one of the most talented con men of all time.

That's what I find sad. Trump could literally sell you the proverbial Brooklyn Bridge. Wise up.

That hopelessly gullible people like you are completely sucked in by one of the biggest ruses from one of the most talented con men of all time.....Thingy

This from the man sucked into the world ending because of climate change caused by man hoax.....laughable.

 

[tsuke]

Do you know what I find extremely sad?

That hopelessly gullible people like you are completely sucked in by one of the biggest ruses from one of the most talented con men of all time.

That's what I find sad. Trump could literally sell you the proverbial Brooklyn Bridge. Wise up.

like i said at least you have an actual choice this time. If you believe all the politicians are lying to you then dont vote. There are better uses of your time. I want to be heard saying that I want everything to move in a different direction.

You may want the parties getting together and deciding on our general direction without our input but I dont want that.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

That hopelessly gullible people like you are completely sucked in by one of the biggest ruses from one of the most talented con men of all time.....Thingy

This from the man sucked into the world ending because of climate change caused by man hoax.....laughable.

Oh, gee - sorry, bravs. Ya got the wrong libbie. I'm not a global warming guy, and have been an advocate of domestic drilling.

Oopsies.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

You call those 'reactions' ?

Dukakis was weak liberal and made a fool of himself with that stupid helmet and tank photo.

Clinton was a draft dodger and womanizer but won anyhow with a background of scandals as governor.

John Kerry was an unpatriotic flip flopper....I would add liar to that and still question his service career....4 months in Vietnam...if he there for a couple of years he'd have more medals
than Audie Murphy at the rate he was racking them up......

Al Gore an arrogant robot?....thats just not nice, .... arrogant maybe and he just don't have that tv persona the liberals love.

Obama won because he was African American....despite his arrogance and Muslim father....he may lean pretty far left, but labeling him socialist is unfair.

Hillary IS an unqualified liar....the email scandal and Benghazi screw up prove that, plus a questionable past about her ethics....

And every Republican candidate ever has been the bestest hero...just the bestest!

 

[Legion Troll]

Yuuuge. Really, the best.

 

[moon]

Aren't you a Bolshevik Bernie socialist piece of shit?

Pooper- I'll bet you say that to all the samples at scatology classes.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I mean, I can tell that even the "defend party at all costs" partisans are mailing it in this time.

Such a drag. I know that there ARE people who are genuinely enthusiastic about Trump & the same for Hillary, but I genuinely don't understand either group. I mean, I even understood enthusiasm for GW, because as lame as he was, he at least had a simple & consistent conservative message.

But these are completely uncharted waters. Two incredibly flawed, dishonest candidates, both of whom will basically say anything to get elected. If you're gung ho about either, you really need to take a look at the kind of bar you're setting. No one should be excited about this election.

If you are depressed, its all worth it.......

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Zinger!

And from one of the best of 'em...

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Once the nomination is done, they always have a truly vitriolic reaction to the candidate. I've seen it every election in my adult life. Dukakis was a weak liberal technocrat. Clinton was a philandering draft dodger. Al Gore was an arrogant robot. John Kerry was an unpatriotic flip flopper. Obama was an African, Muslim, Socialist. (And we were going to wish we had not thrown HRC out, cuz she would have been good) Now Hillary Clinton is an unqualified liar.

I'm glad you're finally accepting the truth about your party......

 

[iolo]

It's understandable that lefties are feeling this way.
To me it's the best ever !

The key thing is that the mugs and morons are growing dissatisfied with the silly pretence of democracy practiced by their masters without having the education or the wit to choose a sensible alternative, so that we get the whole trump, brexit, hateforeigners footle going everywhere. Clowns like this one are likely to finish the world off even more swiftly than their preferred system.