Democratic impeachment inquiry blocking important action in Congress

Hello anatta,

anatta said:
so you are back to your "beliefs". There was no shortage of lethal aid for Ukraine.
There was plenty already on the ground
Sondland gave FACT testimony ( no quid) and then he contradicted it with his "presumptions"

Meaning the fact of Trumps' statement are there,but the quid was his fantasy
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Nice cherry picking job.

Please explain why we should not hear from the Key Witnesses.
 
Darth Omar said:
Well, the only apparent ‘truth’ is democrats are still looking for evidence lol.

And it doesn’t help matters that they can’t decide whether it’s a QPQ or a bribe. Sending this to the Senate with nothing but opinions and presumptions is nothing short of madness for Democrats. Now Jabba the Nadler wants Trump to testify [read: play along with the Democrats fishing expedition] in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

If I’m Trump my answer is...um, no thanks. Enough is enough. Democrats have been hounding this president literally since the day he sat down in the Oval Office.

And democrats need to consider the distinct possibility that is becoming more apparent, by the day, to everyone but the ‘Orange Man Bad’ crowd.
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Opinions and assumptions won’t cut it in the Senate but it will in the House.

House Democrats are willing to remove an elected president on opinions and assumptions.

Imagine that,
 
Happy Sunday Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Well, the only apparent ‘truth’ is democrats are still looking for evidence lol.
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The evidence President Trump is withholding, yes.

Darth Omar said:
And it doesn’t help matters that they can’t decide whether it’s a QPQ or a bribe. Sending this to the Senate with nothing but opinions and presumptions is nothing short of madness for Democrats. Now Jabba the Nadler wants Trump to testify [read: play along with the Democrats fishing expedition] in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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Here's how that works. If you believe Trump should be impeached and removed, as a majority do, then you agree that President Trump should testify. You would love that, because for once, he would be held to his word, something everybody understands he cannot do. If you support Trump, then you do not want him placed in that position because your afraid he'll fall into a 'perjury trap,' (meaning he has to consistently tell the same story, something few on either side believe the President is capable of.)

Darth Omar said:
If I’m Trump my answer is...um, no thanks. Enough is enough. Democrats have been hounding this president literally since the day he sat down in the Oval Office.
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No, actually it has been the other way around. Trump took on the left from the beginning with a stream of nonstop insults. Respectful people on the right were abhorred by him, tried their best to reject him during the campaign, but the disrespectful side of the right was energized by his rhetoric. The disrespectful spiteful, hateful element of the right was highly motivated to vote, bringing out a record number of hateful voters who rarely or ever voted before. The respectful part of the right made a judgement call to just look the other way and let it happen, because they smelled profits and lots of them. The hateful vote, plus the greedy vote, plus the evangelical vote is what elected Trump in 2016. The greedy and the evangelicals just look the way about the hateful element of Trump fans. They have their priorities being met with Trump.

The President's critics are merely ordinary people who have been attacked by the President, or had their values attacked by this President, and they have rightly objected to that. And then Trump claims he's the one 'being attacked.' He is the one that stirred it all up in the first place!

He essentially says it's 'the disgusting left that's doing it,' so all his followers should hate on the left for being so mean to him. And, of course, to the hateful element of the right, this is a bonding moment. They feel exactly like the President does. It's like he's speaking for them! He's their guy. And that's how he gets them. He's got them hypnotized. It's a cult. All he has to do is send out the dog-whistle triggers in order to energize the hateful element of the right against any media sound byte he wants. They pounce on it like red meat to wolves.
 
Hello anatta,

anatta said:
no way in the world Trump will or should testify.
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So you only prefer to listen to Trump via twitter, rallies or interviews where he is not under oath? Obviously he has lots to say about it. He has tweeted up a storm about it. You're willing to pay attention to what he says when he's not sworn to tell the truth. Why are you so adamant that you don't think he should be sworn to tell you the truth Are you afraid of what might happen?

anatta said:
Everything from Schiff stifling witnesses and questions from the Republicans screams this is a rigged game.
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The reason Republicans are only saying the process is wrong and doing nothing about it is because it is not really wrong. If Democrats were violating Constitution or law, the Republicans could hold them accountable. But Republicans have no basis for that, so all they can do is complain. And it is sad that they have no basis to dispute the charges against the President, so they are reduced to arguing process. Seriously, if you are arguing process you have no case.

Rigged, yeah right, with highly credentialed impartial and professional witnesses who are loyal to the Constitution, not Trump? Who all painted parts of the same story, one after another? How is that rigged?

anatta said:
The evidence of Trump's phone call to Sond. can be entered without Trump's testimony.
It's up to cross to undermine that evidence.
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That's only in a trial. Impeachment hearings are not a trial. The hearings were more like an investigation building a case for an indictment. The trial comes later. Republican members of the Intelligence Committee should actually have been critical of the President if they wanted to do their duty to protect the Constitution, instead of taking a defense posture. Democratic members were acting in an official capacity, serving their oath to uphold the Constitution. Republican members acted very partisan, and were obviously dedicated to defending the President against any accusations. The hearings showed that. Democrats talked about the case, Republicans talked about the Democrats.

anatta said:
Bottom of the story? are you kidding ? we HAVE THE TRANSCRIPT
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It is not a transcript, it is a memo. What was said is disputable. And it certainly doesn't tell the whole story. But it does strongly suggest guilt.
 
This president, elected by the people, will never be removed from office by Democrats who have been trying to do so since the first day of his presidency.

Never.
 
PoliTalker said:
So you only prefer to listen to Trump via twitter, rallies or interviews where he is not under oath? Obviously he has lots to say about it. He has tweeted up a storm about it. You're willing to pay attention to what he says when he's not sworn to tell the truth. Why are you so adamant that you don't think he should be sworn to tell you the truth Are you afraid of what might happen?
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specious speculation on your part. Separation of powers means he doesn't have to ( not subservient to Congress) , and that's the basis for his executive privilege claims as well



The reason Republicans are only saying the process is wrong and doing nothing about it is because it is not really wrong. If Democrats were violating Constitution or law, the Republicans could hold them accountable. But Republicans have no basis for that, so all they can do is complain. And it is sad that they have no basis to dispute the charges against the President, so they are reduced to arguing process. Seriously, if you are arguing process you have no case.
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Repubs can't hold Dems "accountable" for the procedure -where do you come uo wit this stuff? it's the Schiff show, soon to be the Nadler Narrative.
The "arguing process" ( cross examination) is the "disputing the charges" -this is basic stuff why to you wander in your statements?

Rigged, yeah right, with highly credentialed impartial and professional witnesses who are loyal to the Constitution, not Trump? Who all painted parts of the same story, one after another? How is that rigged?
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bureaucrats protect their turf -you saw that in all the testimony. Vindman was the worse
He got upset POTUS withheld funds to his beloved Ukraine. so he leaked to the WB ( my cojecture but it fits)
For all your puffery writings why don't you object to the CONSTANT leaking of a POTUS?


That's only in a trial. Impeachment hearings are not a trial. The hearings were more like an investigation building a case for an indictment. The trial comes later. Republican members of the Intelligence Committee should actually have been critical of the President if they wanted to do their duty to protect the Constitution, instead of taking a defense posture. Democratic members were acting in an official capacity, serving their oath to uphold the Constitution. Republican members acted very partisan, and were obviously dedicated to defending the President against any accusations. The hearings showed that. Democrats talked about the case, Republicans talked about the Democrats.
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wrong. the Repubs disputed both the facts of a QPQ ,and the insane "bribery charges"



It is not a transcript, it is a memo. What was said is disputable. And it certainly doesn't tell the whole story. But it does strongly suggest guilt.
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it tells the story of the phone call, even the Vindman witness who wanted to edit it more agrees his edits would not change the facts of the call
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dukkha said:
Consider next the opportunity costs of Congress’ failure to pass a drug pricing reform bill. Democrats and Republicans in the Senate have worked closely together on an issue that matters a great deal to American families: lowering prescription drug prices.
They have crafted a bill (S. 2543) that would significantly improve the Medicare Part D program, hold drug companies far more accountable and save federal taxpayers billions of dollars.

Unfortunately, this transformative bill is not progressing because the House is focusing far more on partisan investigating than bipartisan legislating. Of course, senior citizens are bearing a highly disproportionate share of this particular impeachment burden.

Now how about the lost opportunities associated with the failure to rebuild our decaying roads, bridges, airports and other critical infrastructure? President Trump’s 10-year, $1.5 trillion infrastructure investment program would raise real gross domestic product by as much as 2 percent over the next decade and increase real output by more than $1 trillion, with the higher output recouping some $200 billion in added federal tax revenue.

Meanwhile, Russia and China continue to reshape their militaries in manners that are designed to threaten America’s leadership in space. On a bipartisan basis, the House, Senate and national security experts have agreed that the military must counter these threats.

The United States Space Force, the proposed sixth branch of the armed forces, is an affordable and effective means to protect and defend the nation’s interests in space. Yet Congress is so paralyzed that it may fail to enact a defense authorization bill for the first time in nearly 60 years.

A distracted and divided House has also failed to pass a budget for the 2020 fiscal year. Instead, Congress just keeps kicking the budget can down the road with short-term spending bills known as continuing resolutions.

The American public understands intuitively that the impeachment circus launched by Pelosi and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., is not just a partisan witch hunt. It is also a profound waste of time.

Passing USMCA, lowering prescription drug prices, modernizing our infrastructure, launching a Space Force, and tending to the people’s business will lead to more opportunity, more economic growth, and better choices for farmers, workers, families, and communities.

It long past time for the Pelosi-Schiff impeachment circus to slink out of town and let the 116th Congress finally get to work on behalf of the American people.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/pet...inquiry-blocking-important-action-in-congress

America’s defense-industrial base is being hit particularly hard by congressional addiction to short-term budget fixes. Exhibit A is our nation’s shipbuilding industry.

Shipbuilding is a long lead-time and capital-intensive industry that depends on stable and predictable funding. According to the Shipbuilders Council of America, 94 percent of its members will have to halt hiring if the government continues to operate under a continuing resolution.
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dear fucking idiot


Mc Connal is shelfing EVERYTHING the house sends him


you don't seem to care much about that huh rat dick molester


fuck you very much
 
Darth Omar said:
Why don’t democrats find some brain cells and vote for censure lol?
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They might do that, but the more important issue is getting all the facts out to the public. trump is a criminal, and has been since the election run. Once all of his misdeeds are out in the open, the people can impeach him next November. We need him in office next year. Let the Senate make themselves vulnerable for their inaction on hundreds of stagnant bills, and their cowardice as they pretend to agree with trump.

Next year is going to be grand.
 
dukkha said:
PoliTalker said:
specious speculation on your part. Separation of powers means he doesn't have to ( not subservient to Congress) , and that's the basis for his executive privilege claims as well



Repubs can't hold Dems "accountable" for the procedure -where do you come uo wit this stuff? it's the Schiff show, soon to be the Nadler Narrative.
The "arguing process" ( cross examination) is the "disputing the charges" -this is basic stuff why to you wander in your statements?

bureaucrats protect their turf -you saw that in all the testimony. Vindman was the worse
He got upset POTUS withheld funds to his beloved Ukraine. so he leaked to the WB ( my cojecture but it fits)
For all your puffery writings why don't you object to the CONSTANT leaking of a POTUS?


wrong. the Repubs disputed both the facts of a QPQ ,and the insane "bribery charges"



it tells the story of the phone call, even the Vindman witness who wanted to edit it more agrees his edits would not change the facts of the call
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Cry harder Baby huey.
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evince said:
dear fucking idiot


Mc Connal is shelfing EVERYTHING the house sends him


you don't seem to care much about that huh rat dick molester


fuck you very much
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Amazing that he'll drag that Fox nonsense here, knowing it's a lie.
 
Hello dukkha,

dukkha said:
specious speculation on your part. Separation of powers means he doesn't have to ( not subservient to Congress) , and that's the basis for his executive privilege claims as well



Repubs can't hold Dems "accountable" for the procedure -where do you come uo wit this stuff? it's the Schiff show, soon to be the Nadler Narrative.
The "arguing process" ( cross examination) is the "disputing the charges" -this is basic stuff why to you wander in your statements?

bureaucrats protect their turf -you saw that in all the testimony. Vindman was the worse
He got upset POTUS withheld funds to his beloved Ukraine. so he leaked to the WB ( my cojecture but it fits)
For all your puffery writings why don't you object to the CONSTANT leaking of a POTUS?


wrong. the Repubs disputed both the facts of a QPQ ,and the insane "bribery charges"



it tells the story of the phone call, even the Vindman witness who wanted to edit it more agrees his edits would not change the facts of the call
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Excuse-making does not change the facts. Protecting a recalcitrant President is not defending the Constitution.
 
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